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Re: Auto'Biography

Postby Emc209i » Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:30 pm

Your dad's car was the first time I had ever seen a 2.0 Turbo engine. You posted a few videos about it a year or two ago, and I liked the idea. Thanks for the heads up about the transmission info, I really appreciate that. :)
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Re: Auto'Biography

Postby CincinnatiFiero » Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:44 pm

Get us some more pics paul, I was thinking about this swap today, you picked the perfect car. An Aero notchback. If I did the swap I would do a stock style GT exhaust, run a stock style airbox and intake boot and a sunbird gauge cluster, make it look stock. 2.0T doesn't seem glamorous enough for a fastback for whatever reason. As if the 2.8 was glamorous.
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Re: Auto'Biography

Postby Emc209i » Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:37 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUGRjp7LL1E

Posting another video on youtube, but its going to take a while to finish uploading. Someone tipped me off about the thread on Piffle. I wish it would die.... I don't want more "joe shmoes" doing this swap.

And Paul, I wouldn't consider putting one of these in a fastback either. Its fucking AWESOME in the notch though. People keep mentioning the 3800 to me and I want to puke each time - as if the world needs another 3800 Fiero. I'm afraid I can't keep the oil pressure up no matter how much oil I feed it, so I'm beginning to think maybe the oil pump was responsible for the camshaft. It's an expensive little dude too; $100+.

Here's the other: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk7xtBB5lfQ

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Re: Auto'Biography

Postby befarrer » Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:40 am

Are you planning on any upgrades? My dads is only polished from the turbo back to the turbo, everyting is stock. With a slipping clutch, he did 15.01 in the 1/4 mile at 87MPH on the first time he went, with the headlights on, and a higher altitude, on stock 14" tires, I think he did a 2.05 or so 60'.

If you do any upgrades, this engine is fairly common in Europe, it is an Opel engine, the head, intake, and fuel system is America specific I think. My dad has done lots of research, but they do make a DOHC version of this motor, and it was sold in the US, Daewoo used the DOHC version, and so did some GM cars like the Optra I believe. I think they called the engine the ECOTEC I in Europe, the ECOTEC that is used here currently is the 3rd generation ECOTEC.
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Re: Auto'Biography

Postby CincinnatiFiero » Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:06 am

Needs moar turbo.

I love how when you have a swapped car people do nothing but suggest other swaps after you've spents months and thousands of dollars. When my 3800SC was done every local fuckhead was like 'ya know, this guy makes a kit, where you can put like a 350, 383, LT1 in that car, it'd really fly then'
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Re: Auto'Biography

Postby Emc209i » Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:51 am

I found a DOHC head the other day and almost bought it - Daewoo.
I'm not doing that though, kind of purged it from my mind. I've promised myself I'm going to get this car finished so that it'll be a dependable backup car when needed.

However, I've already got an intercooler and some plans. I've done a ton of research also. Apparently, GM in the dawn of turbo technology decided not to use intercoolers, and instead added almost 4 times the needed amount of fuel and moved timing forward to compensate for heat. The 2.0 with an automatic gets about 25mpg EPA estimate in the Grand Am - a car that weighs considerably less than a Fiero. The injectors are literally supposed to be about maxed out in stock form. So I plan on using a WBO2 and pulling a considerable amount of fuel after adding an A2A intercooler. If I can pull MPG back to 35 and turn the boost cut off and crank the T25 to maybe 10-12 lbs, I should be in the 200+ bhp range, and that's something that would make me considerably happy. I've read just about every turbo build I can find, and they all turn into horror stories after upgrading to a larger turbo. Even the T28 upgrade sounds like it moves power too far forward. Although I'll add, just about everyone online is using complete hack work to make power - as in tricking the MAP to read a false value to get around the fuel cut at 9 psi. If I can keep Kr down, turn boost up, get more economy out it, and make as much power as my old 3.4 DOHC with a lightweight 2.0, I'll be happy.

I'll definitely share results. I'll put it on a dyno when I get "done" with it, and we'll see.

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http://www.daewootech.com/forum/viewtop ... b&start=15
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2237171/1
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Re: Auto'Biography

Postby CincinnatiFiero » Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:20 am

That's the right idea, I don't think the 2.0T is the right venue to try to make 400whp. 200whp, 30+mpg, more reliable than your 3.4... perfect.
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Re: Auto'Biography

Postby Emc209i » Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:28 pm

I'll be blowing this thread out of the water with updates and pictures soon, but I thought I'd share what I've been up to today.

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Right click "View image" to see the entire thing. I'm on a 3200 wide pixel monitor, so sometimes I can't see when images get clipped. If you're in IE, right click > properties > image location.
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Re: Auto'Biography

Postby Shaun41178(2) » Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:06 pm

about ready for paint huh. cool can't wait to see the pics.
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Re: Auto'Biography

Postby Emc209i » Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:57 pm

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Re: Auto'Biography

Postby befarrer » Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:30 pm

That red looks the same color as the car is now?
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Re: Auto'Biography

Postby Emc209i » Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:57 pm

I don't know what color is on the car now. The Rosso is pretty darn close, slightly darker. Makes me wonder what color it was repainted. I wish I could save it, but it's pretty bad in some areas.

The viper red is so bright, it hurts my eyes. You can't see what I'm talking about in the picture. It's for my fathers car. I think he's nuts.
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