Obama won't release records... why?

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Obama won't release records... why?

Post by DiggityBiggity »

:scratch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfIV1ntY ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvGtGitwMR0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57C9b-ZoNTo

Lawsuit Against Obama Dismissed, Appeal Goes to US Supreme Court

(Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania - 10/25/08) -
Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama's lack of "qualifications" to serve as President of the United States, announced today that he is immediately appealing the dismissal of his case to the United States Supreme Court. The case is Berg v. Obama, No. 08-cv-04083.


Berg said, "I am totally disappointed by Judge Surrick's decision and, for all citizens of the United States, I am immediately appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court.


This is a question of who has standing to uphold our Constitution.
If I don't have standing, if you don't have standing, if your neighbor doesn't have standing to question the eligibility of an individual to be President of the United States - the Commander-in-Chief, the most powerful person in the world - then who does?

So, anyone can just claim to be eligible for congress or the presidency without having their legal status, age or citizenship questioned.


According to Judge Surrick, we the people have no right to police the eligibility requirements under the U.S. Constitution.


What happened to ‘...Government of the people, by the people, for the people,...' Abraham Lincoln in his Gettysburg Address 1863.


We must legally prevent Obama, the unqualified candidate, from taking the Office of the Presidency of the United States," Berg said.


Our website obamacrimes. com now has 71.8 + million hits. We are urging all to spread the word of our website - and forward to your local newspapers and radio and TV stations.


Berg again stressed his position regarding the urgency of this case as, "we" the people, are heading to a "Constitutional Crisis" if this case is not resolved forthwith.


http://www. rightsidenews. com/200810252343/editorial/lawsuit-against-obama-dismissed-appeal-goes-to-us-supreme-court. html

Berg does not have legal standing? So Americans have no right to ask if a nominee from one of the two party mafias is qualified to be president under our constitution? RIP Constitution RIP America I am rapidly losing what little faith I had that America could wake up and rediscover it's greatness.

The fix is in Obama seems to be the elites choice and those of us who care are way out numbered.
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Post by whipped »

I can't see the videos, but I have to assume it's because he was "born in kenya" or something similar? He has a Hawaiian birth certificate.

btw, I'll add this... Lets assume he was born in France. With over what, $600M in cash, you don't think they could find someone to make him born wherever the hell he feels like?
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Post by Fastback86 »

I have to say, I'm not all that impressed with Mr. Berg's case. He hasn't proven that Obama is unqualified, just that he won't give Berg his records. Given that Berg doesn't have any rock solid proof unless the court gives it to him (which would violate Obama's 5th Amendment rights were he both guilty and forced to turn over the records), I don't see what he hopes to accomplish. You're required to prove your own case, not force the court or the defendant to prove it for you. Honestly, Mr. Berg's case seems more politically motivated than anything, but maybe I'm just being cynical.
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Post by p8ntman442 »

I cant register to vote without my drivers liscense, he shouldnt be commander in chief without his birth ceritficate.

If hes not hiding anything, whats the issue?
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Post by The Dark Side of Will »

If he can't be bothered to, or isn't literate enough to put a cogent argument into print, then watching the video is most likely a waste of my time.

Video has not shown itself to be the first medium of expression for people with credible arguments (See the IRS legality discussion we had here a while back).
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Post by The Dark Side of Will »

A cogent summary of the argument is here: http://www.americasright.com/2008/08/ob ... deral.html

Not too far down the Google list, but certainly NOT the first result.

I'm really tired of having idiot candidates and cheap shots that turn elections into farces.
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Post by Series8217 »

The same wacko that filed that lawsuit believes 9/11 was an inside job.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0701/S00076.htm
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Series8217 wrote:The same wacko that filed that lawsuit believes 9/11 was an inside job.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0701/S00076.htm
And your point is?
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DiggityBiggity wrote:
Series8217 wrote:The same wacko that filed that lawsuit believes 9/11 was an inside job.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0701/S00076.htm
And your point is?
Nm I forgot you're one of those guys too :-P
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Post by crzyone »

There is a lot of evidence that says 911 was not just a terrorist attack. The towers comming down, building 7, single hole in pentagon etc etc.

If you watch a lot of Fox or CNN you will only know what they tell you.

Look at the evidence as presented by both sides and make up your own mind.

I believe 911 was an inside job.

This is the same government that lied about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction and invading the country and starting a war...
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:withstupid:
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Emc209i wrote::withstupid:
You're not with stupid, you are stupid.
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Nice avatar, Diggity. Hope you're supporting the originals.
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I bought Fallout 3 but it doesn't work on my laptop. :cussing:
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Unsafe At Any Speed wrote:I bought Fallout 3 but it doesn't work on my laptop. :cussing:
Oh well? Just return it and buy Oblivion. Same game without the guns. :cussing: :angry:
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Post by Dirty Sanchez »

Here's an email I received on this. :scratch:

Is Obama Going To Hawaii to Protect His Birth Certificate?



Depending on who you ask Senator Barack Obama is going to Hawaii to visit his ailing grandma or to work the Hawaiian courts to prevent the release of his birth certificate. Purveyors of the second theory point to the fact that when Obama was in Hawaii two months ago he spent so little time with the woman he threw under the bus during his race speech. They also mention that granny just isn't that sick.

Andy Martin recently filed suit in Hawaii demanding that the State turn over Obama's Birth Certificate, His claim is that Obama is really in Hawaii to fight the suit. More Below
Source Israel Insider"Barack H. Obama II has suspended his involvement in his campaign for at least two days to go to Hawaii, purportedly to visit his ailing grandmother.

But the sudden trip to the 50th state coincides with an aggressive campaign by Obama nemesis Andy Martin to legally compel Hawaiian authorities to release birth records that Obama has refused to make public.

And, in a separate Federal Circuit Court case filed by Philip Berg in Pennsylvania to force Obama and the Democratic National Committee to prove that the candidate is in fact a "natural born citizen," Obama and the DNC have failed to respond within a federally-mandated 30 day period, opening the door to a procedural argument that failure to respond represents an admission of the plaintiff's claims that the Democratic nominee is a Kenyan and/or Indonesian citizen, but not a "natural born" citizen of the United States.

The sudden Obama decision to visit Hawaii has triggered broad skepticism, coming as it does in the critical last two week of the close election campaign. Obama's 85-year-old maternal grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, was first brought into the campaign when he sought to show that she, as a "typical white woman", held what the candidate claimed were racist fears of aggressive black men. He brought her up in the context of saying that he could not disown her -- despite her alleged racism -- any more than he could disown his pastor of twenty years, Jeremiah Wright. Obama visited her only very briefly during his summer vacation in Hawaii, and he didn't visit her when she was in a Honolulu hospital last week. There is no indication that her condition is life-threatening.

But Andy Martin, an anti-Obama columnist, says the real reason for Obama's emergency trip is to stop his own pursuit of birth records, including an emergency writ to the Hawaii Supreme Court to request expedited handling after a previous filing to demand that the State's Department of Health release the records. "Obama did not pay any attention to his grandmother until I showed up in Honolulu," he wrote in an email. "Suddenly she is the center of his attention. She is so central to his campaign that he has suspended it! But when Obama was here last summer he only visited his grandmother for an hour. One hour! Now he suspends his campaign for her?"

The Berg-initiated legal action is also pressing the Obama campaign. On September 15, as part of his federal lawsuit contending that the Illinois senator is ineligible, pursuant to the U.S. Constitution, to serve as president of the United States, Philadelphia attorney Philip Berg served Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee with a request for admission, which, on October 6, Barack Obama and the DNC acknowledged getting but then attempted to persuade the court to stay discovery and to dismiss the suit. However, Federal Rules require that a response to a request for admissions be served within the 30-day time limit, and Barack Obama and the DNC have not done so.


Therefore, this morning, Berg is filing two motions in district court in Philadelphia: a motion requesting an immediate order deeming his request for admissions served upon Barack Obama and the DNC on September 15 admitted by default, and a motion requesting an expedited ruling and/or hearing on Berg’s motion deeming the request for admissions served upon Obama and the DNC admitted. Berg contends that the failure to respond and serve the response within the time limit is "damning."

“They did not file answers or objections or anything else to the request for admissions we served upon them on September 15,â€
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Post by Dirty Sanchez »

Someone asked me "what happens if he wins the election and we find out he isn't a naturalized citizen?". I don't know but I'm sure there will be a big lawsuit if this happens.
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Post by whipped »

whipped wrote:With over what, $600M in cash, you don't think they could find someone to make him born wherever the hell he feels like?
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Post by Fastback86 »

Jesus, would you stop with the bullshit chain emails? No one gives a fuck what some political strategist made-up to look like it came from some no-name, ignorant citizen. Use Snopes, and try thinking for yourself occasionally if you'd like to express a political opinion.
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Series8217 wrote:
Unsafe At Any Speed wrote:I bought Fallout 3 but it doesn't work on my laptop. :cussing:
Oh well? Just return it and buy Oblivion. Same game without the guns. :cussing: :angry:
Why won't it work???
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