my nutz r frozen

banditbalz · Post by **banditbalz** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:02 pm

Changing the wheels and tires over to winters on the Avenger and had a hell of a time getting the lugs off. With the use of my neighbours impact wrench and a bunch of hammering, i managed to break them free. Got me wondering, what should I be torqueing the lugs to? I went 50 lb/ft on the steel wheels and from what I remember, 40 lb/ft on the aluminum wheels.

Anyone else get frozen nutz?

THE PUNISHER · Post by **THE PUNISHER** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:29 pm

Girlington was frozen as hell today

Post by **eHoward** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 11:09 pm

I do 75 to 80 ftlbs.

banditbalz · Post by **banditbalz** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 11:37 pm

girlington is for girls. Borington is for people who enjoy the night life there, or lack of.

eHoward, so at 50 lb/ft there is a distinct possibility that I may lose a wheel or two on the highway tomorrow moning?

I'll try to keep it under 120km/h...

Post by **eHoward** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 11:42 pm

Youll probably feel the wheel get loose before you lose it.

It might make for some interesting bets.

trigger · Post by **trigger** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 1:06 am

on a car like that, we usually do 100 at the shop.

AkursedX · Post by **AkursedX** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 2:16 am

It's probably not how tight they were torqued that made them so hard to get off, it was probably corrosion which froze them up. Just slap some anti-seize on the lug-bolts, and also around the hub ring and torque 'em down nice and tight. You'll never have a problem getting them off again.

Post by **eHoward** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 7:29 pm

I hear its illegal in some states on this side of the border for mechanics to antiseize those threads.

I dont antiseize my wheel stud threads for fear that the bolt might back off. YMMV.

GoD wrote:It's probably not how tight they were torqued that made them so hard to get off, it was probably corrosion which froze them up. Just slap some anti-seize on the lug-bolts, and also around the hub ring and torque 'em down nice and tight. You'll never have a problem getting them off again.

AkursedX · Post by **AkursedX** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:22 am

eHoward wrote:I hear its illegal in some states on this side of the border for mechanics to antiseize those threads.

I dont antiseize my wheel stud threads for fear that the bolt might back off. YMMV.

GoD wrote:It's probably not how tight they were torqued that made them so hard to get off, it was probably corrosion which froze them up. Just slap some anti-seize on the lug-bolts, and also around the hub ring and torque 'em down nice and tight. You'll never have a problem getting them off again.

I have anti-seized the threads on every vehicle i own. My father, a mechanic for 30 years has done the same, and this includes Mass Transit buses. Never had a single wheel fall off.

Doug Chase · Post by **Doug Chase** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 2:14 pm

banditbalz wrote:eHoward, so at 50 lb/ft there is a distinct possibility that I may lose a wheel or two on the highway tomorrow moning?

eHoward wrote:Youll probably feel the wheel get loose before you lose it.

Your lugs will have to be extremely loose before the wheel falls off.

As an example, let's say you install a front wheel and snug up the lug nuts with the wheel in the air. You're keeping the tire from rotating with your left hand and operating the breaker bar with your right hand. Then you put the car back on the ground, get distracted, and forget to torque them properly.

This can withstand an entire day of rallying without loosening.

Or so I heard.

Doug