Aarons build thread?

fieromadman · Post by **fieromadman** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:06 pm

Kohburn, what application are those injectors off of?

BTW, interesting that your stock dogbone mount (chassis side) clears

Kohburn · Post by **Kohburn** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:45 pm

http://www.deatschwerks.com/catalog/about_us.php

they don't seem to have them listed on the website but i remember emailing them for the correct application. they were designated for series2 3800sc but may have originally been mustang injectors - been a year since i bought them.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:00 pm

I got back to Colorado yesterday, ran a little obstacle course today, then got to work on the car. Here are a few pics of my nosy orange kat, and the powdercoated oil pan. I added about 1.5qts of capacity, bringing the total to around 7.5. You can also see the 10-AN oil drain for the turbo.

Weponhead · Post by **Weponhead** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:43 pm

I'm gonna laugh when you get an oil analysis and it says theres parts of cat in your oil.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:18 pm

I got the oil pan on and tight, no issues. Here are some pics of the clearance, it is about 1/4" above the front frame rail at the bottom of the pan, and about 1/2" below the rail at the bottom of the drain. I'm not too worried about it.

The Dark Side of Will · Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:02 pm

Aaron wrote: bringing the total to around 7.5.

? :scratch:

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:08 pm

Total engine oil capacity. So when I fill it back up, I expect to add about 7.5qts.

Blue Shift · Post by **Blue Shift** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:57 pm

Aaron wrote:Total engine oil capacity. So when I fill it back up, I expect to add about 7.5qts.

13 quarts + 1 cat FTW.

At least your mom didn't grow flowers or start an aquarium in it. Also don't be a pussy - oil pan clearance is for suckas. :la:

Series8217 · Post by **Series8217** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:58 pm

The Dark Side of Will wrote:
Aaron wrote: bringing the total to around 7.5.

? :scratch:

6 + 1.5 = 7.5.
With the oil cooler, and all the surfaces for oil to stick to and stay on in the cam carriers and heads and stuff, it takes 6 quarts for stock DOHC to be full according to the dipstick... even though all the other 60*s with the same pan take five... If you look in the service manual I think they do list the capacity as 6 quarts.

The Dark Side of Will · Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:19 pm

Interesting that the top end holds enough oil to meaningfully affect oil capacity, but my 2.hate (same pan, right?) has always taken 4 to fill...

Wouldn't have thought that the top end and oil cooler would *each* hold a quart.

Series8217 · Post by **Series8217** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:51 pm

You filled it with 4 quarts and had an empty filter and it read full after running it and shutting it off? I thought even the 2.8 took 5 quarts..

Maybe I'm mixed up and the DOHC takes 5 and the 2.8 took 4.. I'll loook in my service manual again when I'm at my car.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:58 pm

It took my 135k Monte Carlo (96 motor) about 5.5qts to max it on its last oil change, then another half quart once I started it for a few seconds.

But this motor is brand new, and it took me nearly 6.5 quarts just to max it before the first start. Then I had to add another half quart. So I figure once run it will be like the MC, only about 6 total per oil change, which will mean about 7.5 now.

It's nice to know now I can run a quart, dare I say 2 quarts low and it won't even really be low. Not that I'll let that happen, but not everyone checks their oil every time they drive their car. :thumbleft:

p8ntman442 · Post by **p8ntman442** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:28 am

The pan looks pretty good. The only thing I would have done different is made the -10 an fitting a female. I would want a male off the turbo and a femal on the pan, so the hose was female to male. I guess it dosent really matter.

How do you make a cat sound like a dog?

Cover it in gas and light it on fire.

"Whoooof"

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:50 am

I would have done that, but my Turbo came with a female fitting on it, so I didn't have much of an option short of buying a new one, which I didn't want to do.

p8ntman442 · Post by **p8ntman442** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:02 pm

I'm sure with an fittings, flow is not an issue in either direction. With sloppy npt I would worry.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:57 pm

I somehow managed to get the engine support brackets back in. For anyone considering doing this, you're in for a treat. That bracket was a bitch, and it didn't help that I made it much bigger by adding the second mount.

And once I got the motor down on all of the mounts, I realized a previous problem has brought itself to the surface again. The motor is now about 1/4"-1/2" too far to the passenger side of the car. It isn't too big of a deal, but the timing belt cover is really close to the shock tower, and the UIM doesn't clear the dogbone bolt. So now I have to find a way to slide the engine over a bit. The last time this happened, I had to take the engine out of the car to oblong some mount holes and such. But since this has already been done, I should be able to slide it over. And by slide I mean push, pull, swear, pry, jack, kick, and fucking come-a-long it over.

Also, in my fit of cleaning the garage, I managed to lose my oil level sensor. I wasn't planning on using this anyways as I didn't wire it, but now I have a big hole in my oil pan. And of course it isn't any common thread, so I can't just plug it. I should have welded it before I had the pan powdercoated. But life is full of what we should have done, but didn't. It is a very fine thread, and large. I think I might just junkyard hunt for another oil level sensor, and use that.

fieromadman · Post by **fieromadman** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:44 pm

Aaron wrote: ...and the UIM doesn't clear the dogbone bolt...

fieromadman wrote: BTW, interesting that your stock dogbone mount (chassis side) clears

Looks like someone called that.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:00 pm

Hey now...lol

It clears if the motor is where I want it, all of the way to the driver's side on the factory oblong mount holes. However it seems each time I fuck with it, it lands right in the middle of the oblongs because of how I was lifting it (Engine hoist on the engine's dogbone bracket).

Kohburn · Post by **Kohburn** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:31 pm

sounds like you need and engine hoist load leveler to help control it better

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:43 pm

I would, but for this I needed it to only lift the end of the engine, I didn't want it to levelly lift the entire engine.