Hilary for President

crzyone · Post by **crzyone** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:26 pm

WTF happened with Ron Paul? Americans against an honest government?

CincinnatiFiero · Post by **CincinnatiFiero** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:03 pm

For the dems its pretty much Hilary and Obama, personally I like McCain, but who knows.

whipped · Post by **whipped** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:56 pm

crzyone wrote:WTF happened with Ron Paul? Americans against an honest government?

With the right media coverage and spin, a turd could be elected the next president.

Actually on second thought, I'd say that has a fairly high chance of occurring..........

/sigh

DiggityBiggity · Post by **DiggityBiggity** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:23 am

crzyone wrote:WTF happened with Ron Paul? Americans against an honest government?

http://www.blackboxvoting.org

Kohburn · Post by **Kohburn** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:52 am

crzyone wrote:WTF happened with Ron Paul? Americans against an honest government?

imo - ron pauls personally was his worst enemy. I just wasn't as likable despite his platform.

that being said hillary is doing amazingly well inspite of her mr. roboto persona.

DiggityBiggity · Post by **DiggityBiggity** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:29 pm

Kohburn wrote:
imo - ron pauls personally was his worst enemy. I just wasn't as likable despite his platform.

that being said hillary is doing amazingly well inspite of her mr. roboto persona.

http://www.blackboxvoting.org

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PiiaBqwqkXs

CincinnatiFiero · Post by **CincinnatiFiero** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:37 pm

Black man will happen long before white woman IMO. I think Hilary could beat out Barack though and grab the dem ticket. McCain will take the GOP ticket and win, hilary can't beat McCain imo. I have always seen myself as conservative, no a bushie but I def lean right. This thread isn't about the american president, its about the universal hatred of hilary clinton.

DiggityBiggity · Post by **DiggityBiggity** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:48 pm

Fuck Hillary.. and Fuck McCain.. Fuck Obama.. and FUCK the Council of Foreign Relations

BigRedDeckSpoiler · Post by **BigRedDeckSpoiler** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:05 pm

It's gonna be interesting to see how this plays out.
I think Hillary is toast, but it's still early in the game.

Here are some questions and observations...
Obama.
Can a black man be elected?
I certainly think it's possible. Colin Powell would have been a shoo-in. I'd have voted for him in a millisecond.
I'm not so sure about Obama, though. Although he seems to be an honerable guy, he doesn't have any record, to speak of, to fall back on. There's also that "Muslim daddy" thing, even though it probably means squat, in this case. He's still liberal as hell. And he wants my guns. (Or at least doesn't want ME to have them.)
One thing that may become important is if the conservative Blacks, who have been voting Republican, cross over and vote for Obama. I'm told by people who are in a position to know that this is a real possibility.

Hillary.
Can a woman be elected?
Also certainly possible. The Brits have been doing it (well... PM) for years. No problem for me.
Hillary? Not a chance. There can't be any republicans that would vote for her (except for maybe a few misguided women.) Even if she gets the nomination, there are even some Dems who despise her.

McCain.
Looks like he's got the nomination for the Republicans.
I think he's got a chance at the whole enchilada, provided the Republicans don't stay home in protest.
Of course the Republicans that go will vote for him. He's also moderate enough that I could picture some Dems voting for him, as well. Many of these votes will be the ones (and there are guaranteed to be a few) who are decidedly against allowing either a Black man or Hillary to be elected.

My opinion?
Too bad you can't write in "none of the above" and make it count.

The Dark Side of Will · Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:08 pm

Yeah, we need to add a quorum to the voting laws. If you can't manage to get enough people interested that there's at least a XX% voter turn out, then you just need to go home and we'll let the office go for a while until someone interesting comes along.

I've heard that McCain wanted to muzzle bloggers who were saying things about him... What exactly does he think about the first Amendment?

BigRedDeckSpoiler · Post by **BigRedDeckSpoiler** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:05 pm

The Dark Side of Will wrote: ...I've heard that McCain wanted to muzzle bloggers who were saying things about him... What exactly does he think about the first Amendment?

THAT'S interesting.
Happen to have a link, or a source?

(I thought the Dems were the ones who were supposed to be challenging free speech. i.e., talk radio. Hmpf.)

DiggityBiggity · Post by **DiggityBiggity** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:18 am

BigRedDeckSpoiler wrote:
The Dark Side of Will wrote: ...I've heard that McCain wanted to muzzle bloggers who were saying things about him... What exactly does he think about the first Amendment?
THAT'S interesting.
Happen to have a link, or a source?

(I thought the Dems were the ones who were supposed to be challenging free speech. i.e., talk radio. Hmpf.)

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/13/mcc ... -on-blogs/

The Dark Side of Will · Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:51 am

http://www.thecherrycreeknews.com/content/view/515/60/

Read the entire speech before passing judgement about the portion that was lifted out of context as an attack on bloggers.

Having acknowledged that behaviour in himself, it's interesting that he decries it in others.

FIEROAJ · Post by **FIEROAJ** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:50 pm

DiggityBiggity wrote:
crzyone wrote:WTF happened with Ron Paul? Americans against an honest government?
http://www.blackboxvoting.org

I agree both with the statement and the link.
One or the other or both.