F****** AN fittings.....

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F****** AN fittings.....

Post by whipped »

Why oh why did I install 30 extra fuel leak points?

Okay, in my woes to FIX a gas leak in a rubber hose, I went about installing hard line and braided stainless.

Well now that one leak has turned into 3. Okay, so... all the leaks are on the pressure side. On the hard lines, I installed the nut, sleeve, and flared to the correct 37 degrees. Fittings are "tight" but not tight enough to break things. I tried loosening and retightening and very little change (leaks did get smaller).

So what's the deal here? Am I supposed to loosen/tighten them 100 times to seat them? I read somewhere that mixmatched brands can leak (wtf? aren't they all 37 deg?)

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Post by Indy »

They have to be VERY clean when they are assembled/re-assembled, the flares especially. You can also tighten them quite a bit, they're strong little guys.

If that doesn't work, try replacing the fittings. IF you do this, be sure to replace both surfaces that you're trying to mate together.

They shouldn't leak at all.
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Post by whipped »

I'm scared about overtightening them though. Everywhere I've read that's underlined in bold letters. I think Earl's (or somewhere) said hand tight + 1/3 turn.

I made sure there wasn't anything on the seals (metal flakes or whatever) before assembly.

All of the leaks seem to be coming from the flared tubing ends, but I can't be certain. Fuel just seems to spread all over and I can't figure out which end of the fitting it's coming from. On the most severe, I have the hard tube end, a male-male fitting, and a hose end fitting. For all I know they're probably all leaking.

** upon closer inspection, I think it's the welded seam of the tubing that is causing the problems. Unfortunately the fiero did not come with seamless fuel line. I'll see if I can fix this with a dremel.
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Post by p8ntman442 »

whipped wrote:

All of the leaks seem to be coming from the flared tubing ends, but I can't be certain. Fuel just seems to spread all over and I can't figure out which end of the fitting it's coming from. On the most severe, I have the hard tube end, a male-male fitting, and a hose end fitting. For all I know they're probably all leaking.
Get a bottle of baby powder, and cover the leaky area. This will show you exactly where your getting the leak from. Also leave the key in the on position and you can connect the battery up while your watching the leaky area.
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Post by Series8217 »

whipped wrote: ** upon closer inspection, I think it's the welded seam of the tubing that is causing the problems. Unfortunately the fiero did not come with seamless fuel line. I'll see if I can fix this with a dremel.
I was going to mention this then I read your post.
Didn't I tell you something before about using DOM and not welded seam lines? :-P
Ain't gonna work...

BTW, how are you using the Fiero return line with AN fittings? I know there are AN -5 out there, but I've only ever found them in steel (and you can't find hose ends..).
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Post by whipped »

Series8217 wrote: I was going to mention this then I read your post.
Didn't I tell you something before about using DOM and not welded seam lines? :-P
Ain't gonna work...

BTW, how are you using the Fiero return line with AN fittings? I know there are AN -5 out there, but I've only ever found them in steel (and you can't find hose ends..).
I know, but I want to use the stock fiero lines. It's not my fault they're shitty quality. :scratch:

Summit has -5 nuts and sleeves. I'm using those with a -5 to -6 adapter.
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Post by befarrer »

I was going to install an lines for my fuel lines this past weekend, but I didnt get as far as you. I was about to put the ends on the hose when I realized that I had female ends for both sides :lamer:
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Post by The Dark Side of Will »

whipped wrote: I know, but I want to use the stock fiero lines. It's not my fault they're shitty quality. :scratch:
Most of them have held fuel for 20+ years... I don't think there's anything wrong with them. :thumbleft:

This is the sort of issue you run into when you try to make mods without considering the system level impact.
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Post by whipped »

Okay, it only took 3 months. Fuel lines are mostly fixed. I took a dremel to the sealing surface and sanded down the weld seam burr and smoothed it out. Only 1 flare left to go and I'll leak check again.

What sucks is I took off my quarter panels, so it looks too much like ass to be driving it around. Not that it's going to stop me. :thumbleft:

I think my gas is about 8 months old though, so I'll drain it and throw that in the grand prix. bwahaha :angel:
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