a few vids of my car. this is for your aaron :P

Billybo455 · Post by **Billybo455** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:12 am

here you go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kivcw_XSYMg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pgqqzryzp8s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37vWbkE_YNU

MstangsBware · Post by **MstangsBware** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:19 am

I kept meaning to ask you. Do you run a trans brake? I know you had the trans built an wondered if you went with a transs brake options?

Billybo455 · Post by **Billybo455** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:35 am

nope, it's a stock stall to. the car next to me has a trans brake with a 4k stall. my 60's aren't the greatest because of traction, but after i can get into it the car really takes off.

MstangsBware · Post by **MstangsBware** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:50 pm

Billybo455 wrote:nope, it's a stock stall to. the car next to me has a trans brake with a 4k stall. my 60's aren't the greatest because of traction, but after i can get into it the car really takes off.

This is video from when it was SC right? Yeah traction is a problem if the track prep isnt that great. I have only been to one track where traction was an issue but I also runn MT DR in 15 inch and they stick well. I run a 3k stall but cant get up on the stall at the line cause the car gets pushed. A trans brake would be nice but price takes it out of the equation for me.

Nice runs..

Billybo455 · Post by **Billybo455** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:30 pm

thanks

yep it was supercharged. my 17" m/t are the best drag radial out there. i've cut 1.5's in the mustang on them. i don't think i need a brake. running an electric vaccum pump for the brakes and vette brakes keep my car in place.

MstangsBware · Post by **MstangsBware** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:06 pm

Billybo455 wrote:thanks

yep it was supercharged. my 17" m/t are the best drag radial out there. i've cut 1.5's in the mustang on them. i don't think i need a brake. running an electric vaccum pump for the brakes and vette brakes keep my car in place.

I have been thinking of running a vacum pump to help out with the brakes. I have good pedal pressure sometimes and other times not so great. Not forsure if its the cam or another issue causing it. What vacum pump did you use? I agree with the MTs being the best out there, they stick like no others. I have cut 1.6s with mine.

Billybo455 · Post by **Billybo455** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:17 pm

i usually cut 1.6's with mine, i'm hoping to do 1.4's with the new springs. when it quits storming i'll walk outside and take a peak at the pump and let you iknow.

Shaun41178(2) · Post by **Shaun41178(2)** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:42 pm

I am just waiting for the sbc trolls to step in here and throw the "No replacement for displacement" rhetoric around in here.

I mean you beat a big cubic inch v8 3 times with just your small cubic inch v6? I don't possibly see how that is possible. /sarcasm

Nice runs mang.

Billybo455 · Post by **Billybo455** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:49 pm

well in the camaro's defense. he slowed his car down to make it a drivers race. his car is a 10.5 car. he was only running a 150 shot during those runs. his car is a 383 with brodix heads, stall, line lock, stuff like that. it's prolly the best sounding v8 i've heard.

Shaun41178(2) · Post by **Shaun41178(2)** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:20 pm

I see what you are saying. Yea I guess we would have to do the same thing if we were to ever race any v8 fieros.

Billybo455 · Post by **Billybo455** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:54 pm

ha ha, yeah, maybe

the guy that owns the camaro is a good friend of mine. hopefully next time out he'll have to run a 250 shot..

MstangsBware · Post by **MstangsBware** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:50 pm

Billybo455 wrote:i usually cut 1.6's with mine, i'm hoping to do 1.4's with the new springs. when it quits storming i'll walk outside and take a peak at the pump and let you iknow.

Yeah a 1.4 would be nice and would cut some time off at the end. I am running stock springs now and the car launches hard. Going to build some coilovers and see what # spring works the best.

Billybo455 · Post by **Billybo455** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:57 pm

225-250lb best for drag racing, 375-400lb for autox with the 3800/auto combo. my guess anyways.

THE PUNISHER · Post by **THE PUNISHER** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:08 am

Don't go massivley high on the rears , 390 with a 10-12" spring works awesome. The GC kit is crap with a 7" spring...

I have a set of 500's on the back of the N* ...Mistake , oversteer city.

I found the best combo (when I had the 6cyl) was 390 rears with stockers up front and SD's drop spindles. The 84-87 suspension is so antiquated that a stiffer spring up front doesn't really help on an autocross.

I ran a 1" bar rear (had a 1.25) and a 84 bar upfront for autocross...

Track days I would swap to a 1" bar front to dial out some oversteer (keep me safe) Made the car less twitchy at speed and you could control a slide.

My next incarnation is gonna be a new cradle with Gen 2 RX7 front A-Arms (aluminum) in the rear and a multi link setup like a 88...

1 last crack at making a fiero handle well and not ride like a sherman tank.

Now if only I could address the lethargic steering..... Hydro electric units are becoming cheap on ebay

Oh and for those looking to save some HP look up 04 to present Toyota prius AC compressors.. about $400 used and they are ELECTRIC!!!

Got one for the LS1 Vair.... a stocker wouldn't clear the headers.

The Dark Side of Will · Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:50 am

What do you use for struts? I have 325's on the Northstar car with Konis set full stiff and they're way under-damped.

Billybo455 · Post by **Billybo455** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:55 pm

i have kyb's at the moment. i'm also running 10" springs. i have a stock gt bar up front and i run no sway bar in the rear. my car overstears really bad.. that's just when i had eibach drop springs!

Nashco · Post by **Nashco** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:37 pm

THE PUNISHER wrote:Don't go massivley high on the rears , 390 with a 10-12" spring works awesome. The GC kit is crap with a 7" spring...

I have a set of 500's on the back of the N* ...Mistake , oversteer city.

I found the best combo (when I had the 6cyl) was 390 rears with stockers up front and SD's drop spindles. The 84-87 suspension is so antiquated that a stiffer spring up front doesn't really help on an autocross.

I ran a 1" bar rear (had a 1.25) and a 84 bar upfront for autocross...

Track days I would swap to a 1" bar front to dial out some oversteer (keep me safe) Made the car less twitchy at speed and you could control a slide.

My next incarnation is gonna be a new cradle with Gen 2 RX7 front A-Arms (aluminum) in the rear and a multi link setup like a 88...

1 last crack at making a fiero handle well and not ride like a sherman tank.

Now if only I could address the lethargic steering..... Hydro electric units are becoming cheap on ebay

Oh and for those looking to save some HP look up 04 to present Toyota prius AC compressors.. about $400 used and they are ELECTRIC!!!

Got one for the LS1 Vair.... a stocker wouldn't clear the headers.

Doesn't the Prius AC compressor run on 200+ volts and use the other Toyota electronics/inverter to control it? Maybe you were just kidding, but if not I think you got an expensive paperweight.

Did you ever run an '88 rear cradle?

Bryce

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The Dark Side of Will · Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:42 pm

'88 rear is WAY better than early rear.
It can be upgraded further by moving the pivot points.

There was some controversy on the Fiero Racing List, but the end result, I believe, was that it is NOT legal under the SP update/backdate rule due to the hole which has to be cut the strut tower in order to locate the struts properly.

Nashco · Post by **Nashco** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:47 pm

The Dark Side of Will wrote:'88 rear is WAY better than early rear.
It can be upgraded further by moving the pivot points.

There was some controversy on the Fiero Racing List, but the end result, I believe, was that it is NOT legal under the SP update/backdate rule due to the hole which has to be cut the strut tower in order to locate the struts properly.

Will, I know I've seen you mention relocating the rear suspension pivot points a few times in the past. Did you ever actually document/lay out what you thought would work anywhere? In the not-so-distant future I might be able to put this to use and will probably be running some numbers of my own. I'm not building to any class rules, FWIW, this would be an "anything goes" build. I'd gladly start a new thread if you guys want to bounce some ideas around.

Bryce

whipped · Post by **whipped** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:42 pm

Nashco wrote: Doesn't the Prius AC compressor run on 200+ volts and use the other Toyota electronics/inverter to control it?

I did some research because it sounded interesting.

It is a 200V 3 phase 3.4kW synchronous motor. Variable frequency to control RPM and desired cooling.

Means it would need a controller #1..... and #2, it would draw about 300+ amps from a 12v battery. Typically starters are about 100 amps.

Prius is pretty big though, so you could probably get by running it at 100 amps. At least then you'd be at capacity for your alternator (probably 140 amps). You'd need to find a 200V 3 phase inverter/controller though.

Real Fiero Tech

a few vids of my car. this is for your aaron :P

a few vids of my car. this is for your aaron :P

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