Went to OSW

Shaun41178(2) · Post by **Shaun41178(2)** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:14 pm

Went to the track last night to get some runs in. I thought it would be good to go at night as it would be cooler but the temps were still in the upper 70's if not low 80's and the humidity was high.

I tried taking pics of my timeslips but I don't have a macro option so all the pics are blurry and if I try to take htem from further away you can't read it.

I got three runs in.all without the nitrous. Bottle pressure was at 900 when I left for the track but after playing on the freeway en route I checked it at the track and it was only at 700. I never bothered to weigh the bottle to see how much was in it but it was obviously empty. Which sucked cause I wanted to get some nitrous runs in but maybe next time.

First run right off the freeway, no time to cool down. Running my normal 10 lbs of boost 8 degrees of base timing(normally 12)

60' - 1.83
330 - 5.6
1/8 - 8.6
mph - 79
1000 -11.3
1/4 - 13.6
mph -100

Second run I had about 30 minutes to cool down. Just popped the decklid.

60' - 1.86
330 - 5.6
1/8 - 8.5
mph - 83
1000 - 11.0
1/4 - 13.2
mph - 101

Third run had about an hour to cool, just popped the decklid

60' - 1.9
330 - 5.6
1/8 - 8.5
mph - 83
1000 - 11.1
1/4 - 13.2
mph - 103

First run was against my buddies supercharged mustang. He normally traps 106-107 and tonight ran a 103 against me and his second run did a 101. Much slower then last time.

Second run was against a srt4 and third was against a new auto mustang gt. Beat them both. The mustang was an auto and bone stock, he traped 102 and later on I saw him do 103. Saw a nitrous/bolt on ls1 do 111 mph. Should be around upper teens.

There was an sl65 amg car there trapping only 105. Modded STI's trapping 94 so the track was pretty slow tonight in my opinion. Had a good time though.

Now time for the haters...

whipped · Post by **whipped** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:38 pm

shit dude, I thought it was on sunday? Here I was getting ready to eat and leave. That's my bad.

But you're running about what I was...

You're running an intercooler aren't you? 10# should put you into the 12's.

AkursedX · Post by **AkursedX** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:44 pm

What's that? Did hell just freeze over??? Shaun went to the track?? LOL j/k

Good runs man. I would like to know what it does on the bottle too. But even without the juice, you have a pretty quick car. Those were some good 60ft's too. I can't say I'm suprised with the times though, it's about what I expected out of your setup. I'd say mid-12's would be possible on the bottle given the same weather conditons.

Weather does play a huge factor in times, and tunes. The past two times I've been to the track it's been hot and humid. I'm looking foward to September and October to see what I can do in some nice cool weather.

It's good to see some more v6 numbers.

The Dark Side of Will · Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:45 pm

Yeah, what was your launch technique? You were crackin' pretty good short times.

MstangsBware · Post by **MstangsBware** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:24 pm

Good times and would like to see what the times are on the bottle. This time of the year sucks going to the track because of the heat/humidity.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:37 pm

Shaun41178(2) wrote: There was an sl65 amg car there trapping only 105.

The SL65s aren't worth much without bigger rims and drag radials. The one I drove needed traction control all of the way up to 80mph. If they hook, they are scary fast, but they just chirp the tires from 0-80, so 604hp and 738tq quickly becomes 400. Not to mention at anything above 60F* on 91 octane they are constantly knocking and pulling timing. We put 100 octane in it for a tank, and OMFG. The difference was fucking surreal.

It's about time you went to the track! 13.2 is quicker than I was expecting, I wouldn't be ashamed of that in the least. Time to get your DOHC running though, because there is a replacement for displacement--head flow.

Shaun41178(2) · Post by **Shaun41178(2)** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:42 pm

sl65's are quick. My buddy with his 03 cobra that traps 118 got pulled by a bone stock one from a 45 roll. I got that on tape. Goes to show that even those cars bone stock weren't up to snuff last night. Also they don't sell 91 octane here in florida. Its 89 or 93, and I am sure someone with a sl65 isn't going to be putting in 89 to go to the track.

Of course the 118 was at Gainsville and he runs around 113 at OSW. Quite a big difference. He goes mid 13's traction limited at osw and low 12's at gainsville. Something about the weather or something or just gainesville is a faster track.

Launch technique was nothing special. I just slipped the clutch till about 3500-4k rpm then full release. Launch rpm was around 3k rpm or so. I just kept reving it to keep it in the 3k rpm area.

I wasn't expecting 12's without the bottle. I know its not that fast. But based on my buddies supercharged gt mustang who has gone 13.2 at 107, I figured I would be in that neighborhood since we are always dead even when we race and I am off the bottle. He went 103 and I did too after my car cooled. So I think 107mph off the bottle is there, just need better weather.

10lbs is probably around 230-240 hp with its current 8 degree base timing which is what I was expecting since 7 psi got me 210whp. And yes I am running an intercooler now. I usually run more timing of about 12(have gone as high as 16 with 100 octane) but I was expecting to run nitrous tonight so I retarded it to be on the safe side. I think going from 8-12 is around a 15 hp or so difference.

I got quite a few compliments about how the car was leaving. I didn't think I was launching that hard despite what the 60' times were. I guess its just how the front of the car lifts up. I don't know thts what my buddy said when he watched me make a run. He didn't get it on tape though as I would like to see just how it looks on a decent launch.

I probably wouldn't be that impressed with my launch seeing as how the 3800 guys are cutting 1.5 and 1.4 60 ft times.

The dohc car is making slow progress as I have dived back into researching and planning the ITB setup to go into the formula. Some of my money is going there but once I get a new chip for the dohc car and it runs better then it does now that might motivate me more to get that running how it should.

And yes hell has frozen over. But it wasn't on a work night which made it easier for me to make it and get more then 1 run in.

Billybo455 · Post by **Billybo455** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:27 am

how much do you spray? i know a 50 shot can pick up about a second on a forced induction car. if you spray a hundred shot you could very well be in the 11's with 1.9 60's!

The Dark Side of Will · Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:43 am

Shaun41178(2) wrote:I probably wouldn't be that impressed with my launch seeing as how the 3800 guys are cutting 1.5 and 1.4 60 ft times.

For a stick Fiero, 1.8's are cooking.

THE PUNISHER · Post by **THE PUNISHER** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:31 am

I am Impressed.

Good Job Shauny bag.

fieromadman · Post by **fieromadman** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:06 pm

Yea for a manual Fiero 1.8's are flying!

Nice runs!

Shaun41178(2) · Post by **Shaun41178(2)** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:34 pm

Billybo455 wrote:how much do you spray? i know a 50 shot can pick up about a second on a forced induction car. if you spray a hundred shot you could very well be in the 11's with 1.9 60's!

Keeping that secret but you are in the neighborhood.

I am wondering if on my third run if I had cut a 1.83 60 ft like on my first run if I would have been able to run a 12.9. My third run I posted a 1.9 but it was actually 1.97 so almost actually 2 seconds or .14 slower then my first and best 60' that night. All speculation of course.

But like I said earlier I am not really going for Et as I want my tranny to survive as I am more interested in mph. My car was def all launch that night.

No replacement for displacement!!

AkursedX · Post by **AkursedX** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 6:11 pm

Were these runs on street tires?

If so, I will once again say that those are good 60ft's for a manual. My best 60ft is a 1.74 on street tires. I hae 350lb coilovers in the rear and I think the high spring rate is really hurting weight transfer and I'm not getting enough squat. I have never had a launch where I didn't spin or chirp at least a little bit.

THE PUNISHER · Post by **THE PUNISHER** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:28 pm

How about a little run down of your car?

Stock 3.4 with Hypers?
Clutch?
Turbo?
Injectors?

Just want to get an idea of bang for the buck.

Sorry I didn't answer the other night , i was getting head.

THE PUNISHER · Post by **THE PUNISHER** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:50 pm

it's a 3.4 for sure , he bought it from some circle track racer kid... I know that for a fact..unless he is telling 2 different stories.

2.8L of shit is the same as 3.4L of shit.. not much Diff.

Shaun41178(2) · Post by **Shaun41178(2)** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:28 pm

Its a 3.4 With hyper pistons, 272 cam mildly ported heads and lower intake. this if of course all from the guy I bought the motor from. I didn't verify any of it personally.

Its running a stock middle and upper intake with stock 52mm tb.

WCF kevlar/kevlar clutch and pressure plate.

SC61 turbo

24lb FMS blue top injectors.

Sinsiter chip and an safc

Billybo455 · Post by **Billybo455** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:44 pm

wow, those are some tiny injectors.

Shaun41178(2) · Post by **Shaun41178(2)** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:51 pm

stock dohc injectors are 22 aaron so I don't know wha tyou are talking about.

And yes they are small. But I sized them to support the hp level I was going to be running with X amount of boost. I did my math. I had 42lbers waiting but with the chip I am unable to run more boost then 10 psi. Untill I get that figured out 24's will stay.

No sense in running larger injectors and wasting gas if I don't need to. Besides the car idles perfect, starts perfect and runs perfect with the 24's as that is what the chip is tuned for.

I make it up with a nice wet shot.

Billybo455 · Post by **Billybo455** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:10 pm

siemens deka 60lb injectors. i run them on everything. they are great for fuel economy! better then any other injector i've had.

Shaun41178(2) · Post by **Shaun41178(2)** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:36 pm

so if htey did have 24's how are stock larger then mine? They are the same goober.

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