Turbo guru's
Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:26 am
So anyway with business being dog slow, I can't see a C6 in the future anytime soon so I've been eyeing a turbo kit for the Suzuki SX4. I decided to not do much with the 85 vette, so I'll likely sell that for whatever to get it out of the way, and I really have no intrest in engine swapping either Fiero.
Road Race Motor sports in Kaliforna-ah has a bolt on kit with a piggy back ECU that has dyno'd 220 Whp. these things are rated stock at 143HP and the average dyno of a stock 5 spd AWD is around 98 WHP, thats well over a 100% increase in HP. This kits runs 10 PSI with stock internals.
http://www.roadracemotorsports.com/stor ... cts_id=345
Sounds intriguing......
Now I know the basics of Turbocharger operation and diagnostics, but I'm not up to speed on turbocharger mappings and whatnot, basicially other than knowing how they work, my experiance is limited to troubleshooting stock factory systems.
The kit says it is a 16g turbocharger, which I'm guessing is originally a Mitsubishi application ( Road Race does alot for mitsu's too).
I've been following their progress on this setup for the past 2 years, and they claim they have numerous cars running this with 10's of thousands of miles on them without any failures.
It is pricey- sorta... $4500.00 USD. but honestly, a proper L67 swap in a fiero the way I would want to do it would run about that, so already it's not anymore than I expected to pay for a swap in something.
Now I know everyone is going to say " you can do your own cheaper", well I may be able to, but first I don't want to fuck with it, I want to bolt on, maybe some tuning and go but here is the real kicker......... Suzuki Motors USA will still honor the powertrain warranty with this kit installed. In fact, Suzuki has been showing the RRM Turbo SX4's in their displays at the major autoshows and this kit is available for purchase through Suzuki dealers.
I don't mind paying extra if it doesn't void the powertrain warranty, I have 8 years of that left on this thing.
This car already handles as well, if not better than a stock 88 GT, and that is with the factory shitty Bridgstone Turanza's it came with., obviously if I double the HP I would probably do some suspension and brake mods along with a good set of tires. There's lots of suspension and brake bits available for these things.
RRM and people who drove the cars and those that have this kit already say that they are as quick if not faster than stock WRX's and Evo's.
My only real concern is wintertime, but they will do a de-tuned ECU program and just change the tuning for whatever season.
I've seen dyno sheets and vids ( one dynoed 244 WHP ) on several different RRM turbocharged ones, and they are showing 220 WHP +.
Seems like wild claims of a 100+% increase on stock internals and drivetrain, but the numbers are out there.
Fun looking Vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meZFjAph ... re=related
I already played WRC this winter a few times at night when no one else was on the roads, this thing is a blast to drift around and very controllable and predictable on snowy roads^^
Road Race Motor sports in Kaliforna-ah has a bolt on kit with a piggy back ECU that has dyno'd 220 Whp. these things are rated stock at 143HP and the average dyno of a stock 5 spd AWD is around 98 WHP, thats well over a 100% increase in HP. This kits runs 10 PSI with stock internals.
http://www.roadracemotorsports.com/stor ... cts_id=345
Sounds intriguing......
Now I know the basics of Turbocharger operation and diagnostics, but I'm not up to speed on turbocharger mappings and whatnot, basicially other than knowing how they work, my experiance is limited to troubleshooting stock factory systems.
The kit says it is a 16g turbocharger, which I'm guessing is originally a Mitsubishi application ( Road Race does alot for mitsu's too).
I've been following their progress on this setup for the past 2 years, and they claim they have numerous cars running this with 10's of thousands of miles on them without any failures.
It is pricey- sorta... $4500.00 USD. but honestly, a proper L67 swap in a fiero the way I would want to do it would run about that, so already it's not anymore than I expected to pay for a swap in something.
Now I know everyone is going to say " you can do your own cheaper", well I may be able to, but first I don't want to fuck with it, I want to bolt on, maybe some tuning and go but here is the real kicker......... Suzuki Motors USA will still honor the powertrain warranty with this kit installed. In fact, Suzuki has been showing the RRM Turbo SX4's in their displays at the major autoshows and this kit is available for purchase through Suzuki dealers.
I don't mind paying extra if it doesn't void the powertrain warranty, I have 8 years of that left on this thing.
This car already handles as well, if not better than a stock 88 GT, and that is with the factory shitty Bridgstone Turanza's it came with., obviously if I double the HP I would probably do some suspension and brake mods along with a good set of tires. There's lots of suspension and brake bits available for these things.
RRM and people who drove the cars and those that have this kit already say that they are as quick if not faster than stock WRX's and Evo's.
My only real concern is wintertime, but they will do a de-tuned ECU program and just change the tuning for whatever season.
I've seen dyno sheets and vids ( one dynoed 244 WHP ) on several different RRM turbocharged ones, and they are showing 220 WHP +.
Seems like wild claims of a 100+% increase on stock internals and drivetrain, but the numbers are out there.
Fun looking Vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meZFjAph ... re=related
I already played WRC this winter a few times at night when no one else was on the roads, this thing is a blast to drift around and very controllable and predictable on snowy roads^^