9.11 Inside Job... MORE PROOF
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I made an explosion out of black powder and some pipe, that subsequently created a sonic blast perferating both my eardrums. It shook all my moms glass bottles off the window sills and onto the floor, didnt break the window though. Go figure. It also sent a piece of shrapnal 3 inches into my house, and another piece 2 knuckles deep into my chest (.5 cm from heart sac, yeah I was chubby way back then).whipped wrote:just a minor point... black powder doesn't detonate, it deflagrates. black powder requires a container, whereas something like TNT creates it's own container through its supersonic shock wave.The Dark Side of Will wrote: The detonantion of 8oz of black powder can make a large window visibly flex over 100 feet away (experience). Blowing one out shouldn't take much more pressure.
..just sayin :blah5:
Explosions do lots of funny stuff that physicists have a hard time explaining. My position is that the towers collapsed due to the planes, not explosives. Building 7, i havent got enough info on to support a descision either way.
haven't we all?p8ntman442 wrote: I made an explosion out of black powder and some pipe
But while you were busy perforating your ear drums, some friends and anotherpersonwhoshallremainnameless were busy doing something usefull... namely, blowing up a Mac.
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^^ pieces of which, by the way, landed about 100 yards away.
It's absolutely a person.. watch it a couple timesThe Dark Side of Will wrote:
Oh yeah... was that a person waving from the gaping hole, or a peice of something flapping in the wind (of which there is obviously quite a bit)?
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Heheheh, if it underwent DDT, Will probably wouldn't be here.whipped wrote:maybe... was there a DDT? :la:
(deflagration to detonation transition)
You can detonate smokeless poweder. I remember seeing a diagram of a wine bottle (with the hollow indentation in the bottom) filled with Vitavuori smokeless, then a blasting cap, and sand packed in on top of that. The idea being that the cap detonates the smokeless, and the hollow conical indentation on the base of the bottle forms a crude shaped charge. I guess the resistance used them to fuck up armored things.
That aside, there's a ton of reasons why glass could blow out. Those skyscraper windows are much much thicker than normal glass, the idea being to stop people from accidentally falling through and such. Though under the severe pressure of the building walls deforming, they probably blow out with great force when they pop. Also it probably doesn't take many PSI of air pressure over such a broad pane to pop one. Bursting vessels containing a number of things could possibly blow them out as well, you don't need too much pressure.
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Then let's see them, because that looks like a piece of broken aircraft composite to me.DiggityBiggity wrote:It's absolutely a person.. watch it a couple timesThe Dark Side of Will wrote:
Oh yeah... was that a person waving from the gaping hole, or a peice of something flapping in the wind (of which there is obviously quite a bit)?
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Also note that clip you posted of that "person" waving has been EDITED (look at the smoke) while the whatever continues to wave... somebody cutting together pieces of video in an effort to make it look like someone was there? Do conspiracy theorists know no bounds?
Seismograph for the two towers (no bomb!)
Found that the tower potential energery was calculated to 10E11 Joules!! Only 10E6 of the energy was converted into an earthquake so that left a massive amount of energy to deform/heat the rubble.
http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/gua ... EO_KIM.htm
Still trying to find seismo for building 7.
Found that the tower potential energery was calculated to 10E11 Joules!! Only 10E6 of the energy was converted into an earthquake so that left a massive amount of energy to deform/heat the rubble.
http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/gua ... EO_KIM.htm
Still trying to find seismo for building 7.
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His first theory about bombs in the towers is dispelled by lack of seismo activity representing it.allWorkNoPlay wrote:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8063563/#051116a
His wtc 7 argument is just as unlikely as a fire bringing down the building. Self-admitted in the interview
His last theory was the molten steel in the basement. Guess what happened to the other 10E11 - 10E6 Joules of energy went? If you bend metal, it heats up. 10E11 J of friction produces a hell of a lot of heat, IMO. Can you even imagine what pressure some of the low level structure was under when a building that size falls on it!
Talking about 9-11 is a lot like discussing someone else's religion: You can do it, but you've got to tread carefully. Most of the time, it's best to stick to platitudes and move on. The subject is still too raw for debate, particularly here in the New York area.allWorkNoPlay wrote:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8063563/#051116a
Still to raw to debate? It's almost 2006... It's about time we debated it... And as far as New Yorkers are concerned, Zogy shows 50% of New Yorkers believe the government WAS involved in a cover up.
But the overwhelming majority wrote to thank me for my "courage" in putting him on, and to complain that we didn't give him more time to explain the conspiracy.
Interesting... They complained you didn't give him enough time tucker? I wish I would have seen the show.. I bet it was your typical badgering the guest that didn't let him explain his theory correctly... He's a professor, not a T.V. news anchor... Cameras make people nervous... But what does that say that the MAJORITY wanted to hear MORE from him... maybe the MAJORITY doesn't buy the official story, and is searching for answers?
In other words, a lot of people seem to think it's possible that the U.S. government had a hand in bringing down the World Trade Center buildings.
Damn right we do!
Ponder that for a second: The U.S. government killed more than 3,000 of its own citizens. For no obvious reason. Then lied about it. Then invaded two other countries, killing thousands of their citizens as punishment for a crime they didn't commit.
Wait wait... For no obvious reason? It's called Political Capitol... And we invaded those countries BECAUSE of 9.11... Even though Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9.11, and posed ZERO threat.
"We have no evidence Saddam Husein was involved in the attacks of 9.11" George Bush
Condi Rice and Colen Powel both agreed in early 2001 before the attacks that Iraq was cut off, and was no threat. They changed their stories rather quickly, however, the evidence shows that they were right in early '01. We have found no weapons of mass destruction, and have called off the search.
If you really thought this - or even considered it a possibility - how could you continue to live here? You couldn't. You'd leave the United States on the next available flight and not come back. You'd have no choice. Continuing to pay taxes to a government capable of something so evil would make you complicit in the crime.
Maybe you would Tucker, you fucking coward. But this is MY country, and I won't let a criminal regime drive me out of it! It's OUR DUTY! as Americans to OVERTHROW tyranny, and QUESTION the government!
So of course most of the people who wrote to say they think the government might have been behind 9-11 don't really think the government might have been behind 9-11. For whatever reason, they just like to say so. Which as far as I'm concerned makes them phony and irresponsible.
For what reason? It's so fucking apparent! Political Capitol, WAR, OIL, POLICE STATE.
Incidentally, we still have an open mind here on the Situation, even after Professor Stephen Jones. So if evidence ever does arise that the government lied substantially about what happened on September 11th, we'll be on it immediately. I promise.
The evidence was on your show... you gave him 6 minutes...
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I very much believe that is where the world is currently heading
so who wants to buy a private island with me that we can make self sufficient and have our own rules :thumbleft:
oh yeah and streetracing will be legal :la:
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I very much believe that is where the world is currently heading
so who wants to buy a private island with me that we can make self sufficient and have our own rules :thumbleft:
oh yeah and streetracing will be legal :la:
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