Zeitgeist: Addendum

crzyone · Post by **crzyone** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:11 pm

I meant to post this up a week or more ago. Great video on how the federal reserve works.

Watch this video and you will see how the 850 billion bailout should be illegal and anyone that voted for it should be hung as a traitor...

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

This video paints a pretty bleak picture of the near future.

whipped · Post by **whipped** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:02 pm

97% of currency is digital... so I think it's time to rack up some debt and go "fight club".

OMG - this is why Ron Paul wasn't elected... he was trying to get rid of the fiat currency!

DiggityBiggity · Post by **DiggityBiggity** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:54 pm

crzyone wrote:I meant to post this up a week or more ago. Great video on how the federal reserve works.

Watch this video and you will see how the 850 billion bailout should be illegal and anyone that voted for it should be hung as a traitor...

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

This video paints a pretty bleak picture of the near future.

The only thing that movie has right is how the Fed works... when that futurist is talking about his "Utopia", it's fucking wrong. It's socialism/communism/fascism at it's worst.

crzyone · Post by **crzyone** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 5:19 pm

I don't think so. When I hear what he is saying I just think about Star Trek lol. No money in the future, no poverty.

DiggityBiggity · Post by **DiggityBiggity** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:17 pm

crzyone wrote:I don't think so. When I hear what he is saying I just think about Star Trek lol. No money in the future, no poverty.

Dude... it's seriously an immature stance of humanity and nature. No money and no poverty... who runs that system? Who decides what's enough? Who decides what you can and can't wear, as to avoid "jealousy" and "competition"?

It's communism masked as some kind of futuristic dream utopia.

whipped · Post by **whipped** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:46 pm

If you're on a tropical island with 3000 bananas, and there are 3 people, who decides who gets a banana? I do, god dammit, give me my banana!

Emc209i · Post by **Emc209i** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:16 am

whipped wrote:I do, god dammit, give me my banana!

Exactly. I have to agree with you diggity. How long do you think Utopia will last before one person finds out that he can have twice as much by killing his neighbor? Desire will always reign supreme -currency or not.

lucky · Post by **lucky** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:10 pm

But in a society where no one wants for anything, why would there be greed or jealousy? Yes, I understand it's still "communism" but theoretically communism works; you just can't force it on people.

The Dark Side of Will · Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:46 pm

The world of Star Trek is one in which "material need has been eliminated".

IOW, it sounds like if you just want to exist, you can do that for free. If you have some aspirations, you can work toward them (and presumably profit by them). On a societal level, it would seem that the productivity of the productive and driven is so extremely high that they simply bring everyone else along for the ride.

DiggityBiggity · Post by **DiggityBiggity** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:32 pm

The Dark Side of Will wrote:The world of Star Trek is one in which "material need has been eliminated".

IOW, it sounds like if you just want to exist, you can do that for free. If you have some aspirations, you can work toward them (and presumably profit by them). On a societal level, it would seem that the productivity of the productive and driven is so extremely high that they simply bring everyone else along for the ride.

Yeah... doesn't work that way though. If everyone could just "live" on "tax" money from the other "more driven" population... what would motivate anyone to work? No one wants to be a garbage man...

whipped · Post by **whipped** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:57 pm

DiggityBiggity wrote:
Yeah... doesn't work that way though. If everyone could just "live" on "tax" money from the other "more driven" population... what would motivate anyone to work? No one wants to be a garbage man...

Why do people build cars?

It's work, yes, but there is some enjoyment involved too.

Re: garbagemen, it was stated in the film that menial jobs would be for the robots.

DiggityBiggity · Post by **DiggityBiggity** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:18 pm

whipped wrote: Re: garbagemen, it was stated in the film that menial jobs would be for the robots.

Dude.. seriously.. at some point, somewhere, people are going to have to work around the garbage.

This is a science fiction utopia which is just selling Communism/Fascism/Socialism with a velvet glove over an iron fist

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