Can I fit a 5x114.3 wheels into a 5x115 hub?

DreX · Post by **DreX** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:45 am

Can I fit a 5x114.3 wheels into a 5x115 hub?

This is confusing. LOL

A .7mm whould make such difference?

Thanks
DreX

Shaun41178(2) · Post by **Shaun41178(2)** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 1:01 am

I dont' think they would fit no.

DreX · Post by **DreX** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 1:12 am

Dang.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 1:15 am

Shaun is incorrect, they will fit.

However they do fit towards the edge of the drilled holes, and tightening the bolts can get iffy if the holes are drilled tapered in an effort to center the rim.

DreX · Post by **DreX** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 1:51 am

But all the wheels have tappered holes. Well I never saw one w/o them.

DreX

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 3:56 am

DreX wrote:But all the wheels have tappered holes. Well I never saw one w/o them.

DreX

Yah most do, and the lugs are tapered to center them. They will still bolt on, I've seen it done before, but I'm not sure of the dissadvantages.

crzyone · Post by **crzyone** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:05 am

I wouldn't suggest it. All the load on lugs will be on one side, you could possibly crack the rim? Most new rims need to be torqued down, pretty tough to do when you are not centered properly.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:21 am

crzyone wrote:I wouldn't suggest it. All the load on lugs will be on one side, you could possibly crack the rim? Most new rims need to be torqued down, pretty tough to do when you are not centered properly.

I also wouldn't suggest it, especially if it is in a racing or high speed environment.

The Dark Side of Will · Mon Jan 02, 2006 6:45 am

I'll agree with those above and recommend against it. The taper fit will bend the lugs over. With time they may fatigue and fail.

DreX · Post by **DreX** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 10:32 pm

I was thinking the same as you guys stated above. Its not a good idea to force a wheel where it not belongs to. Damn

I want to change the bolt pattern of the Fiero to 5x114.3 due to better wheels offerd for that bolt pattern.

Which new GM car have 5x114.3???

DreX

FastFieros · Post by **FastFieros** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 10:58 pm

I have 114.3's on my 115 pattern. It sucks... I had the OEM 17 inch wheels on my car for 2 weeks. Zero noise's, and smooth from a start/stop.

Now I added 18 inch 114.3's and i have popping noises, and it shakes a little from a start.

I read on the CGP forum before I did this 18 inch wheel, and "most" everyone there wrote it was ok. I do not think it is ok now.

Thankfully my 114.3 are also 5x100, and I see a Fiero in my future with 18 wheels..

Loyde

DreX · Post by **DreX** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:05 pm

FastFieros wrote:I have 114.3's on my 115 pattern. It sucks... I had the OEM 17 inch wheels on my car for 2 weeks. Zero noise's, and smooth from a start/stop.

Now I added 18 inch 114.3's and i have popping noises, and it shakes a little from a start.

I read on the CGP forum before I did this 18 inch wheel, and "most" everyone there wrote it was ok. I do not think it is ok now.

Thankfully my 114.3 are also 5x100, and I see a Fiero in my future with 18 wheels..

Loyde

THANKS FOR TESTIMONIAL!! Thats was exactly I was looking for. You save me a lot of problems and money.

Thanks again

DreX

GunnerGTP · Post by **GunnerGTP** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:15 am

114.3's will fit on 115, physically.

.7 is indeed enough of a difference to cause problems with popping noises/vibration/breaking of lug bolts. But it can be solved by making absolutely sure that you are using the correct centerbore. And if you don't have the correct centerbore, use metal centering rings. Once the wheel is perfectly centered on the hub via the centerbore, you won't see any problems with the lug bolts.

Many people have no idea that the centerbore is an actual necessary performance fitment. Car companies discarded the idea of centering on the lug bolts long ago. They all center on the hub/centerbore now, for good reason. Following this rule will solve any problems with using 114.3 wheels on a 115 hub. Not following this rule will cause all the problems described previously.

donk_316 · Post by **donk_316** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:17 am

GunnerGTP wrote:114.3's will fit on 115, physically.

.7 is indeed enough of a difference to cause problems with popping noises/vibration/breaking of lug bolts. But it can be solved by making absolutely sure that you are using the correct centerbore. And if you don't have the correct centerbore, use metal centering rings. Once the wheel is perfectly centered on the hub via the centerbore, you won't see any problems with the lug bolts.

Many people have no idea that the centerbore is an actual necessary performance fitment. Car companies discarded the idea of centering on the lug bolts long ago. They all center on the hub/centerbore now, for good reason. Following this rule will solve any problems with using 114.3 wheels on a 115 hub. Not following this rule will cause all the problems described previously.

Good first post!

GunnerGTP · Post by **GunnerGTP** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:04 pm

Thanks, I just found out about this place.

I'm a long-time member over at P's, as well as ClubGP and a schlew of other forums. I don't post often, but I'm online enough for my wife to know I have an addiction...

DreX · Post by **DreX** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:53 pm

GunnerGTP wrote:Thanks, I just found out about this place.

I'm a long-time member over at P's, as well as ClubGP and a schlew of other forums. I don't post often, but I'm online enough for my wife to know I have an addiction...

LOL, looks like my case. I hear often, PLEASE!!! Dont turn on the compter today!!.. LOL

Back to bussiness, so i can use the 5x114.3 wheels just need a center rings. Where I can get them? Does worth the hassle? Its an extra that needs to stay installed?

Thanks
DreX

Kohburn · Post by **Kohburn** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 3:04 pm

DreX wrote:
GunnerGTP wrote:Thanks, I just found out about this place.

I'm a long-time member over at P's, as well as ClubGP and a schlew of other forums. I don't post often, but I'm online enough for my wife to know I have an addiction...
LOL, looks like my case. I hear often, PLEASE!!! Dont turn on the compter today!!.. LOL

Back to bussiness, so i can use the 5x114.3 wheels just need a center rings. Where I can get them? Does worth the hassle? Its an extra that needs to stay installed?

Thanks
DreX

can always modify the hubs to change the bolt pattern - but still a good idea to use centering rings

The Dark Side of Will · Tue Jan 03, 2006 8:33 pm

GunnerGTP wrote:114.3's will fit on 115, physically.

.7 is indeed enough of a difference to cause problems with popping noises/vibration/breaking of lug bolts. But it can be solved by making absolutely sure that you are using the correct centerbore. And if you don't have the correct centerbore, use metal centering rings. Once the wheel is perfectly centered on the hub via the centerbore, you won't see any problems with the lug bolts.

Many people have no idea that the centerbore is an actual necessary performance fitment. Car companies discarded the idea of centering on the lug bolts long ago. They all center on the hub/centerbore now, for good reason. Following this rule will solve any problems with using 114.3 wheels on a 115 hub. Not following this rule will cause all the problems described previously.

I should have touched on the centering bore topic, but it seemed horrendously obvious to me.