Are u better off since EBSB52?

[EBSB52]

don't really care - I could ignore him if i wanted to -

but just for fun - I'm looking for some more political persuasion tests for people to take..

here is a real short one that I took showing where you stand politically..

http://www.self-gov.org/quiz.html

and my result was centrist

there are more out there if someone else feels like finding more

I took that a long time ago. It says I'm a libertarian. The gumment needs to stay its dam self out my bidness.

So you're pro-abortion, pro-stem cell? Pro gay marriage? Come on, those are not true....... :scratch:

No, of course not. I was just kidding. In every way I'm just like everyone else you've ever dropped into the basket of those who don't agree with you.

Oh, I didn't see your sarcasm.

As for dropping in the basket, you are unique in that you are a dictionary revisionist.

[Mach10]

Your making assumptions as how I conduct my life. I have a couple good friends whom I would go to the ropes for, but I'm not the type of social butterfly who tries to appease the masses - might be a shocker to you.

I make no assumptions of your life, I go by your conduct here.

And people who disagree with me politically, they will probably not like me. Those who do usually do like me. The older you get the more these things are important.

Truth is you don't want to be alienated by the masses, other truth is I would rather discuss intense politics than fight, but not by much.

Alienation has nothing to do with it; It has everything to do with the fact that you come off as a pompous asshole. Why would I associate myself with you--if in my opinion--you aren't helping my side any?

The extreme example would be siding with a Klan member when discussing immigration.

My point earlier was that a passive approach beats an aggressive one. IOW's, are you no longer one of the guys unless youtale a swing at me? Kind of a jumping-in process - show your allegiance.

I thought I made it clear that I HAVE no allegiance to you. And I thought it was clear that I take swings at pretty much everyone.

Jumping-in, jumping-in, jumping-in. Broken record. Maybe I worded it wrong; The ONLY way I can deal with the incessant stream of bullshit that comes out of you is to poke fun at it.

I hope you'll pardon my candor. Low-brow? Sure... But then, I like fart-jokes, too... Sue me.

Not that I'm a martyr by any stretch, but any kind of change comes from verbal, visible dissent. Do you think Rosa Parks was alone? How about the Revlutionary Warriors? You can get shit on or punch the anus above you, I see which roles we play.

You really thing rather highly of yourself, comparing what you do here to Rosa parks. It's a DISCUSSION forum. I think you need to get a new hobby, because--really--the ONLY person who takes any of your blathering seriously is you.

You faltterer :fart: But people know they're not getting some watered-down shit when they get it from me. I'm not talkin people here, but people in my life.

Again, you compare this loudmouthed internet persona with real life. "Not Watered Down?" Jesus... You selling fertilizer on the side?

There have been more threads about me than anyone, except Aaron, so I think that establishes you're wrong. I can't, "win" arguments because people generally don't change. I'm not trying to change them, just expose the flaws of certain ideologies.

Not at all; Or have you conveniently failed to notice that the vast majority of these threads are asking--in their own right--for you to shut your yap?

Does that mean the wedding's off?

Let's snuggle for an evening, then we'll see :3some:

Because the mob is against me, not everyone, just the idiots who feel they need to speak up, the laugh is at my expense? If the idiots in question, and you are bordering on that membership, just ignored then there would be no issue. Show where I initiated calling any names. Your defintion of stirring up shit is to dissent from the general membership.

The Queen just called, you're finally getting your knighthood, you dear, brave man...

This is where you start to fall down that side of the fence. I'm not banned from NL. Where do you get that? I just walked away and I'm sure I could go back. I don't want o go back. See, what's cool here is lack of moderation. Even tho the private (priveliged) section sucks, at least there is no voting people off, being chastized by management for speaking up, etc...

I never said "banned." I said SHUNNED. As in "unpopular," "disliked," "PARIAH."

If you go through these recent threads, I would like you to find a fight I instigated. Where did I insult anyone first? I compell you to find 1.

Does it matter who started it? You still come off as an asshole.

BTW, there are people here who I formerly had issues with who have demonstrated they have good sense and they just avoid threads that could go ugly or that are instead of reaffirming their allegiance to the clique and jumping in. To those people I salute. I would really rather not get into shitting matches, but unless I fall into the lockstepped protocol here, I won't be allowed to that.

What are you trying to say; that if we like you we should stay clear of you? Get over yourself.

[V8Mikie]

Ed seems like the kind of guy I could deal with in real life but comes off the wrong way more often than not on the internet. IMO its hard to really judge someone from the internet like a lot of people do. Just my 2 cents...

[crzyone]

LIBERTARIANS support maximum liberty in both personal and

economic matters. They advocate a much smaller government; one

that is limited to protecting individuals from coercion and violence.

Libertarians tend to embrace individual responsibility, oppose

government bureaucracy and taxes, promote private charity, tolerate

diverse lifestyles, support the free market, and defend civil liberties.

I say that fits me pretty closely. I think government should be limited to providing basic services and staying the hell out of my life. In Canada almost exactly half your income goes to various taxes. That is damn criminal...

[MNFatz]

Ed seems like the kind of guy I could deal with in real life but comes off the wrong way more often than not on the internet. IMO its hard to really judge someone from the internet like a lot of people do. Just my 2 cents...

They great thing about internet forums is you can tell something is wrong from a person from a distance. I can tell whatever he's posting is pretty bizarre just by everyone's reaction to it. :rotflmao:

[AntiCooter]

Of course you couldn't piss on me, i is unwise to squat over a fire. You are such a tool for walking into that one. :blah5:

The only squatting to be done would be when I shit on your ashes. After they are safely extinguised, of course. Nice try dicknose, but it still sucks to be you.

[donk_316]

LIBERTARIANS support maximum liberty in both personal and

economic matters. They advocate a much smaller government; one

that is limited to protecting individuals from coercion and violence.

Libertarians tend to embrace individual responsibility, oppose

government bureaucracy and taxes, promote private charity, tolerate

diverse lifestyles, support the free market, and defend civil liberties.

I say that fits me pretty closely. I think government should be limited to providing basic services and staying the hell out of my life. In Canada almost exactly half your income goes to various taxes. That is damn criminal...

I managed to get that label also!
Yay 4 me!

[BigRedDeckSpoiler]

<snip>

Face it, you're alone in your fights. You come off as abrasive and insulting. You have shitty personal skills (and that's Mr. Loudmouth ADD Dude saying it)... You aren't winning your arguments, because people aren't going to stop and think about it, they are just going to IGNORE you.

You aren't worth fighting for. All you do is attempt to stir shit up.

If I can get a laugh at your expense, I will, because you haven't given me (or anyone else) any real reason not to.

So, by all means, keep alluding to this "Mob Mentality." The fact that you're shunned from both NL and here speaks louder about your character than it does about ours.

Anyway, flame on. :thumbleft:

Awwww... don't talk about Aaron like that.

Oh, wait...

[Aaron]

The theme behind the friendship between 88GT and me is education. We were both conservatives before university, now we lean left. That is often the path. I used to be the loudmouth conservative w/o any support, just angry rhetoric. Do what you wish with that statement, I know the other side will.

I didn't read the last 2 pages, but just had to join in here.

I was/am the same way, pretty conservative in my views. But, as I get into my junior year at school, I am heading more and more left. I will probably vote Democrat next election. Not like it will mean much in redneck okieville..

Anyways, I don't think it's because I'm getting more educated. Maybe it is, but I don't think so. The reason is because the more Bush is in office, the worse everything is getting. Gas prices are still going up, our soldiers are still dying everyday, and my tuition is still going up. I don't care if the Democrat gets in office and asks every secretary in that damned building to get on their knees and start sucking, if it gets us out of the Middle East, it's worth every swallow.

[stimpy]

That's fucking hot. You should write porn, Aaron.

[EBSB52]

I make no assumptions of your life, I go by your conduct here.

Oh you sure did. Not that I care. What are my actions here? Defending myself? Come on, check as of late and see if I attacked anyone unprovoked. Love how you just brief by that. SO by your inaction, I can deduce that you wish I would take shit from your cronies, and that your pandering to them with that attitude. I never looked at you as that nutless before.

Alienation has nothing to do with it; It has everything to do with the fact that you come off as a pompous asshole. Why would I associate myself with you--if in my opinion--you aren't helping my side any?

I’m not asking you to join forces and fight the supposed enemy you infer. I would be happy if you would either show some common sense and say nothing, as many members have who may disagree have disagreed with me in the past, or constructively debate. Again, show where I attacked anyone unprovoked. You can’t, hence you wish I would just let your BF’s slam me w/o retaliation. You guys beat the fuck out of Aaron and expect he take it, so I say to you Mach, kid, don’t count on it.

I thought I made it clear that I HAVE no allegiance to you. And I thought it was clear that I take swings at pretty much everyone.

Don’t ya get it? You have 3 options:

1) Say nothing (passive)
2) Defend me
3) Attack me

Only #2 requires you show allegiance to me and I would love to read where I ask for your allegiance. Are you smoking’ too much weed again?

Jumping-in, jumping-in, jumping-in. Broken record. Maybe I worded it wrong; The ONLY way I can deal with the incessant stream of bullshit that comes out of you is to poke fun at it.

OK, then don’t turn around and whine when I call your wife the dirty whore she is. Remember years ago when you were going to come out and beat my ass for that? Still waiting. I then broke down your trek into elements and you agreed that it is ridiculous to consider such a thing. See, the as swipes who attack me and insist I take it want to control the bounds of my verbal counter attacks. Sorry, there are none, so go get your whore-ass wife off the street and teach her some manners. Include your self and your included. Show some sense and don’t attack and I won’t verbally counter-attack you.

You really thing rather highly of yourself, comparing what you do here to Rosa parks. It's a DISCUSSION forum. I think you need to get a new hobby, because--really--the ONLY person who takes any of your blathering seriously is you.

The emphasis was on dissent versus licking the balls of others around me, even if I disagree with them, which is you.

Not at all; Or have you conveniently failed to notice that the vast majority of these threads are asking--in their own right--for you to shut your yap?

Yes, they’re asking me to quit exposing their flawed logic that is this countries current administration. You Don’t have to live here, so it’s easy for you. Wasn’t it you that left the post about how you hate this country, yet you lick the balls of these militant as swipes who constantly instigate shit here. These are the people who vote in the politicians you hate - get your head out.

The Queen just called, you're finally getting your knighthood, you dear, brave man...

The clique just called, you’re getting your jumping-in party; bring your panties with the hole in the backside.

I never said "banned." I said SHUNNED. As in "unpopular," "disliked," "PARIAH."

Now you’re defining ½ the people here, idiot. Even you were in that category until you started licking that old guys ass…. What’s his name???? Point is, the reason for this site was to escape that shit and you fault me for it….. What a moron.

Does it matter who started it? You still come off as an asshole.

No, it does matter who instigates it. The receiver has options:

1) Take it
2) Return volley

What are you trying to say; that if we like you we should stay clear of you? Get over yourself.

No, that if you don’t like something, especially something that isn’t directed at you, just ignore it. Furthermore, if you like peace in here, shut your pussy little ass the fuck up. If you like turmoil, keep attacking. Once again, you instigated this shit with me; do I have to go establish that? Some old members who might disagree with me, some might really dislike me have shown great common sense by just leaving it alone. OTOH, guys who’s wives are out selling their ass for groceries have too much time, so they start shit here.

[EBSB52]

Ed seems like the kind of guy I could deal with in real life but comes off the wrong way more often than not on the internet. IMO its hard to really judge someone from the internet like a lot of people do. Just my 2 cents...

Ed seems like the kind of guy I could deal with in real life but comes off the wrong way more often than not on the internet.

Who, me????? :scratch: :thumbleft:

IMO its hard to really judge someone from the internet like a lot of people do. Just my 2 cents...

True, but I'm not a mousy little fuck with big balls on the internet. Ask Steve Normington, he's met me. I'm a typical car guy who went to college and realized I love politics. I learned how to construct arguments that are so positive that the average car guy can't disprove. Then they get mad at me. I love intelligent, constructive debate and wish we had that. I really didn't instigate any shit this time, but I shure reciprocated. I'm really tired of this evaluating EBS shit, let's get back to the forum.

I noticed you have great knowledge in the law, but are driven by your conservative ideals, so it appears to me that that trumps the other side.

[EBSB52]

LIBERTARIANS support maximum liberty in both personal and

economic matters. They advocate a much smaller government; one

that is limited to protecting individuals from coercion and violence.

Libertarians tend to embrace individual responsibility, oppose

government bureaucracy and taxes, promote private charity, tolerate

diverse lifestyles, support the free market, and defend civil liberties.

I say that fits me pretty closely. I think government should be limited to providing basic services and staying the hell out of my life. In Canada almost exactly half your income goes to various taxes. That is damn criminal...

To my understanding, Libertarians take the fiscal side from the right and the moral side from the left, as a very rough assessment.

I've taken those tests from Lib Party and I end up a moderate Liberal with a definite lean toward Libertarianism.

I agree with many concepts from the Libertarians, but where they lose me is their take on social welfare. If the Libertarians had it their way, SS, medicare, medicaide, disability and all social services would be handled thru the church and thru charities. This is fantasy. The US would look like La after Katrina with all the dead folks lining the streets. If they revised their stance in this area I might consider taking up with them as I agree with many of the ideals.

Don't nock socialized medicine unless you live w/o it for years and even then, it is very partial. Perhaps you take for granted that great country of yours....

[EBSB52]

Ed seems like the kind of guy I could deal with in real life but comes off the wrong way more often than not on the internet. IMO its hard to really judge someone from the internet like a lot of people do. Just my 2 cents...

They great thing about internet forums is you can tell something is wrong from a person from a distance. I can tell whatever he's posting is pretty bizarre just by everyone's reaction to it. :rotflmao:

So you base your opinions on others perceptions of things? You are the consumate sheep of all time. :lamer:

[EBSB52]

Of course you couldn't piss on me, i is unwise to squat over a fire. You are such a tool for walking into that one. :blah5:

The only squatting to be done would be when I shit on your ashes. After they are safely extinguised, of course. Nice try dicknose, but it still sucks to be you.

Uh huh, just go squat and piss you loser.... u walked into it :tool:

Furthermore, I don;t want to hear about your SCAT fantasies.

[EBSB52]

<snip>

Face it, you're alone in your fights. You come off as abrasive and insulting. You have shitty personal skills (and that's Mr. Loudmouth ADD Dude saying it)... You aren't winning your arguments, because people aren't going to stop and think about it, they are just going to IGNORE you.

You aren't worth fighting for. All you do is attempt to stir shit up.

If I can get a laugh at your expense, I will, because you haven't given me (or anyone else) any real reason not to.

So, by all means, keep alluding to this "Mob Mentality." The fact that you're shunned from both NL and here speaks louder about your character than it does about ours.

Anyway, flame on. :thumbleft:

Nothing of any substance

Oh, wait...

[EBSB52]

I was/am the same way, pretty conservative in my views. But, as I get into my junior year at school, I am heading more and more left. I will probably vote Democrat next election. Not like it will mean much in redneck okieville..

Anyways, I don't think it's because I'm getting more educated. Maybe it is, but I don't think so. The reason is because the more Bush is in office, the worse everything is getting. Gas prices are still going up, our soldiers are still dying everyday, and my tuition is still going up. I don't care if the Democrat gets in office and asks every secretary in that damned building to get on their knees and start sucking, if it gets us out of the Middle East, it's worth every swallow.


I think it’s because you are likely becoming more global in your thinking. I remember sitting in my political science class about a year into college (circa 1997) thinking, “I’ve been buying into that BS for how long?â€

[Indy]

I used to be the loudmouth conservative w/o any support, just angry rhetoric.

Get ur cock out of ur daughter and go change the tires on ur house.

So now your a loudmouth liberal w/o any support, just angry rhetoric.





















WHAT AN IMPROVEMENT!!!!


P.S.
:stfu:

[V8Mikie]

Maybe we can arrange a truce between all sides for the sake of the rest of the forum who is tired of every thread turning into a pissing match. :cussing:

Deal...or no deal?

[EBSB52]

I used to be the loudmouth conservative w/o any support, just angry rhetoric.

Get ur cock out of ur daughter and go change the tires on ur house.

So now your a loudmouth liberal w/o any support, just angry rhetoric.





















WHAT AN IMPROVEMENT!!!!


P.S.
:stfu:

As I wrote afterthat snippet, do what you want with it, I know you will. Everyone had enough sense to catch that but you.

BTW, does support define whether you're right or not? ANSWER: In internet forums, yes. Simply tagging along like a dog, as you are, doesn't make you more right, justy more of the majority. This country was founded on dissent, yet people are oten chastised for it and called unpatriotic.

I ask you to research the recent posts and find where I instigated.