3800 Rebuild

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Re: 3800 Maiden Voyage, and the list of bugs.

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5300 is lower than stock, so it's probably 6300. They definitely know better than I do!
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Re: 3800 Maiden Voyage, and the list of bugs.

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CincinnatiFiero wrote:That's 3/8" angle iron on the side of the motor that pulls away, you really think I am going to break it?
Didn't know it was 3/8". That's pretty thick. I'm more concerned about a fatigue failure. Keep an eye on it for cracking.
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I am going to the shop this weekend to work on those a-arms and weld the exhaust on my 88. Since I have the welder I think I will probably throw a gusset on there anyways. I got a donor pair of a-arms and I think I can cut the sleeves out and pound them into the powdercoated a-arms and then pop in my poly bushings.
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Got teh poly, thanks a-aron.
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Dude you're sick. Fucking pedo.
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Big ass gusset on the L
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Gusseted the extension on the frame too
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I broke one of the idlers, so I bought a new one and put 2 new belts on
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I got another set of A-arms, knocked the bushings out ( saved the sleeves lol) and took the ball joints out. I'll snap pics when I paint them and put the poly and ball joints in.
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What can I grease my poly bushings with? Is there anything that I can get at a store that will work? I know prothane makes specific grease for their poly but its $12 shipped for 3 like 1oz tubes of the stuff.
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I use synthetic grease, I forget what brand I use, it's a silver tube and the grease is clear / white. It's not as thick and heavy as prothane's grease, but it does the job and I haven't yet had any complaints of customers car's suspension squeaking with it.

A regular sized " lube tube" is only about 12 bux and lasts a couple years.

EDIT: just did a little Google search, it's Super Lube silicone lubricating grease

This is it here

http://www.super-lube.com/super-lube-si ... 0-p-48.htm

Also been using it on caliper sliders, distributer o-rings etc with great results too.
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Got a new pair of A-arms, put in the poly and the ball joints
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Heres new pics of the front mount, gusseted, lock washered, and thread locked.
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Here is the front mount, a GM transmission mount
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The motor getting ready to go back in, I need to buy some axle stuff. Anyone know where I can buy the SQUEEZE TYPE CV CLAMPS.
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Re: 3800 Maiden Voyage, and the list of bugs.

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I believe I can get squeeze CV clamps at any automotive store around here; Advance has them, NAPA, and I'm sure Autozone. I don't know what your venue is there, but I'd just start calling around.

I got mine back in the car last night. There was a dime sized hole in the front header.... Guessing it's a hot spot from fuel pooling. :sigh:
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All the places around here want to sell the HELP! Speed-Boot clamps. The ones you pull through, crank down, flip over, and pound down. The only time I have gotten the squeeze type ones was at advance in a complete re-booting kit.
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I personally use normal worm clamps from Home Depot. But you have to make sure they will clear the transmission when you put them on.
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Aaron wrote:I personally use normal worm clamps from Home Depot. But you have to make sure they will clear the transmission when you put them on.
I tried it, I don't personally like the way they work, and the clearance is too close for my liking the way my trans is mounted. I will try to order some of the squeeze type clamps.
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3/8 mild steel will hold all you have, but the cradle itself isn't 3/8, so I'd worry more about that.
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Gussets on the cradle extension and L bracket make me pretty bulletproof. Since I am running all rubber mounts that should prevent me from pulling a V8archie cradle cracking maneuver. I am pretty happy with my mounts, the motor has zero play in it, even without the dogbone.
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I had worm clamps on my cv boots and they hit the cradle and sheared off on the drivers side. FYI. I had work rubber mounts but a lot less HP than you.
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I am not going to use worm clamps, like I said, I did it once, not a fan. I will call around today to try to get squeeze type CV band. I am going to need a 5speed inner tulip to build my axles, can't remember which one I need, I have one in my basement I need to go see which one it is. IIRC I need the Passenger side (male) tulip. Anyone got one? I will pay for it obviously.
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Re: 3800 Maiden Voyage, and the list of bugs.

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All Fiero manual transaxle inner and outer CV joints are the same regardless of years or sides.
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Re: 3800 Maiden Voyage, and the list of bugs.

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Stick is what I meant, sorry, my car has me thinking 5speed. Yeah I just need stick tulips.

I just checked, it is the drivers side I need (female). I'll post in the mall.
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CincinnatiFiero wrote:Stick is what I meant, sorry, my car has me thinking 5speed. Yeah I just need stick tulips.

I just checked, it is the drivers side I need (female). I'll post in the mall.
You need one from an automatic transaxle then, drivers side.
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