Hurricane Rita hasn't hit FL yet and Oil Prices goin up!?!

Sinister Fiero · Post by **Sinister Fiero** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:49 am

Hurricane Rita hasn't hit FL yet and Oil Prices are already going up!?! This is bullshit. Somebody needs to get a handle on this crap.

I can't wait until E85 becomes available in my city early next year. That way I can convert all my vehicles to run on it so I will only be 15% of a slave to the middle east. :cussing:

/rant

KissMySSFiero · Post by **KissMySSFiero** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 10:57 am

Yesterday, I heard this was going happen.

What the hell does the Keys have to do with Oil prices? I know they do a lot of oil drilling off the keys(note sarcasm)

Kohburn · Post by **Kohburn** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:12 am

gas prices in my area dropped - which is good because I'm supposed to go down to new orleans next week to help the reconstruction effort with peeps from my church

ITSA6 · Post by **ITSA6** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:16 pm

KissMySSFiero wrote:Yesterday, I heard this was going happen.

What the hell does the Keys have to do with Oil prices? I know they do a lot of oil drilling off the keys(note sarcasm)

besides the oil companies looking for an reason to jack oil prices, there are alot of of shore rigs in the gulf. last i heard is that they were already evacuating them. no workers on thr grigs, mean no oil coming in. time for prices to go up.......again :cussing:

KissMySSFiero · Post by **KissMySSFiero** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:20 pm

[quote="ITSA6]besides the oil companies looking for an reason to jack oil prices, there are alot of of shore rigs in the gulf. last i heard is that they were already evacuating them. no workers on thr grigs, mean no oil coming in. time for prices to go up.......again :cussing:[/quote]

After posting this, I looked at the direction of the storm. I hadn't heard about any evacuating of anything other than the Keys. So I assumed it was going to hit the keys from the south and die out in south florida.

I now see its heading west into the gulf.

I'm still going to buy a jar of vasoline when I fill up my tank.

Kohburn · Post by **Kohburn** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:26 pm

too bad a chastity belt doesn't work against capitalism :la:

The Dark Side of Will · Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:59 pm

Is E85 85% ethanol or 85% gasoline?

Kohburn · Post by **Kohburn** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:05 pm

The Dark Side of Will wrote:Is E85 85% ethanol or 85% gasoline?

85% ethanol

p8ntman442 · Post by **p8ntman442** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:58 pm

Kohburn wrote:
The Dark Side of Will wrote:Is E85 85% ethanol or 85% gasoline?
85% ethanol

good luck with that.

Kohburn · Post by **Kohburn** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:11 pm

p8ntman442 wrote:
Kohburn wrote:
The Dark Side of Will wrote:Is E85 85% ethanol or 85% gasoline?
85% ethanol
good luck with that.

whats so difficult about changing the engine to use a different a/f ratio and higher combustion pressures/temperatures ---

your mpg goes down but your power goes up

The Dark Side of Will · Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:21 pm

Aside from the fact that you have to rebuild your entire fuel system to be E85 safe...

Kohburn · Post by **Kohburn** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:26 pm

The Dark Side of Will wrote:Aside from the fact that you have to rebuild your entire fuel system to be E85 safe...

bah - the system isn't exactly that big -- I replaced all the lines and fuel pump in my system - granted the parts may not all be ethanol safe - but its not that difficult to do

I think the tuning would be the hardest part

The Dark Side of Will · Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:30 pm

Not if you can get your emulator to work right... :scratch:

:thumbleft:

Kohburn · Post by **Kohburn** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:35 pm

The Dark Side of Will wrote:Not if you can get your emulator to work right... :scratch:

:thumbleft:

heh - no seriouslyt i think that'd be the hardest part :thumbleft:

replace the fuel stuff.. tune the ecm - and turn up the boost - i'd be set and probably getting about 180miles to the tankful

p8ntman442 · Post by **p8ntman442** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:49 pm

p8ntman442 wrote:
Kohburn wrote:
The Dark Side of Will wrote:Is E85 85% ethanol or 85% gasoline?
85% ethanol
good luck with that.

^^^^ I repeat.

Kohburn · Post by **Kohburn** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:09 pm

p8ntman442 wrote:
p8ntman442 wrote:
Kohburn wrote:
The Dark Side of Will wrote:Is E85 85% ethanol or 85% gasoline?
85% ethanol
good luck with that.

^^^^ I repeat.

hahaha - dude you crack me up - you want to convert that aluminum block to use DOHC heads - but are scared of E85? lol

Sinister Fiero · Post by **Sinister Fiero** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:30 am

The Dark Side of Will wrote:Aside from the fact that you have to rebuild your entire fuel system to be E85 safe...

Glad you joined in because maybe you have an answer for me since I can't seem to find anyone else who knows...

Obviously I already know that rubber lines and most OEM fuel injectors cannot handle E85. That's not a problem. I am already running an aftermarket fuel pump and injectors in my Fiero that are alcohol-friendly. The burning question I have is what about the steel fuel lines, fuel tank, and plastic baffles in the tank of the Fiero? E85 compatible or not? And if not, what exactly will happen?

Kohburn · Post by **Kohburn** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:48 am

I believe you'll need to have the inside of the fuel tank coated to protect it

Blue Shift · Post by **Blue Shift** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:54 pm

The only reason E85 or alchol is "corrosive" is cuz it absorbs atmospheric moisture, no? Same as Methanol? That and I guess that alcohol dissolves stuff that they never bothered building gas systems to be protected against. It's not like some sorta acid that's gonna eat through anything not made out of teflon or glass.

The easier route would be to get one of those FFV's since they're already set up. Matter of fact, they're already equipped with a fuel sensor that'll switch fuel maps when nessicary. That'd be kinda cool. Now to kick GM in the ass and make them get into the FFV game some more...

The Dark Side of Will · Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:55 pm

And the hybrid game, and the electric car game...

Steel fuel lines ought to be OK. I'd replace all the rubber with E85 safe rubber. Not sure about the inside fo the tank, but I'd be real cautious with it. Does anyone know exactly what plastic those baffles are made of?