Is the front compartment wall structural?

Real tech discussion on design, fabrication, testing, development of custom or adapted parts for Pontiac Fieros. Not questions about the power a CAI will give.

Moderators: The Dark Side of Will, Series8217

Post Reply
User avatar
Series8217
1988 Fiero Track Car
Posts: 5994
Joined: Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:47 pm
Location: Los Angeles, CA

Is the front compartment wall structural?

Post by Series8217 »

As far as I can tell, the front trunk wall serves no structural purpose; its just there to make a sealing edge for the front compartment. Its flimsy sheet metal. With the tire tray out I can bend it with my hands. I cut the top part off to clear my hood scoop; now its even flimsier. It isn't directly tied to the frame rails or suspension. Am I missing something? Is there any reason I can't hack this thing out and not worry about replacing it with anything but fiberglass? If I'm wrong and it is reinforcement for something, am I going to have any benefits from replacing it with something stronger (after I hack it out)?
teamlseep13
Posts: 430
Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:28 am
Location: Seattle, WA
Contact:

Post by teamlseep13 »

I have a feeling that is gives some rigidity to the chassis. Not sure how much, but putting something stiffer(cross brace) in wouldnt hurt.
whipped
Posts: 4719
Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:17 am
Location: Bomb shelter, FL

Post by whipped »

teamlseep13 wrote:I have a feeling that is gives some rigidity to the chassis.
x2
My fiero is aliiiive!!
User avatar
Series8217
1988 Fiero Track Car
Posts: 5994
Joined: Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:47 pm
Location: Los Angeles, CA

Post by Series8217 »

I think you guys may be right. Going back to my wiggle test, I tried it again and found that I can't deflect it along the length of the car. Makes sense, right? I can twist it but it seems to be loaded laterally, keeping the frame rails from coming together a bit or twisting up toward each other. I'll leave it in place for now.
It looks easy enough to add a bar across the frame rails up front. There's nothing in the way. I may weld or bolt in something when I have some daylight again. If that front compartment wall really does add some rigidity I don't know that it really does enough..
The Dark Side of Will
Peer Mediator
Posts: 15631
Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2004 11:13 pm
Location: In the darkness, where fear and knowing are one
Contact:

Post by The Dark Side of Will »

The lower part of the front trunk wall doesn't do anything, but the upper part triangulates the strut towers to each other and boxes in the engine compartment. If you replace it with something, make sure that something picks up the lower frame rails as well as the strut towers.
whipped
Posts: 4719
Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:17 am
Location: Bomb shelter, FL

Post by whipped »

strut towers? engine compartment? We're talking about the hood (front) compartment...
My fiero is aliiiive!!
The Dark Side of Will
Peer Mediator
Posts: 15631
Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2004 11:13 pm
Location: In the darkness, where fear and knowing are one
Contact:

Post by The Dark Side of Will »

Series8217 wrote:...front trunk wall...
Front trunk wall = forward wall of trunk

Anyway, the forward wall of the front compartment is structural, IMO, because it ties the front frame rails together. Now, I'm pretty sure there are better ways to do that which would compromize front compartment space, but I haven't really looked at things.
Pyrthian
Posts: 628
Joined: Fri Jun 10, 2005 11:35 am
Location: Detroit, MI

Post by Pyrthian »

I am doing a hood vent right now too, and I am going to cut about 1-1/2" down, 22" wide section out of the center of that wall. being its curved, it cant actually be doing a whole lot. any side-2-side load would just bend the curve. and, I am also going to cut the two 1-1/2" cuts, and fold it over, so if anything, it will actually be stronger. but, no I dont think its structural. at least in a chassis stiffning kind of way. I think its just somthing to bolt the coolant overflow, & tire tub too.
the front cross member is your front stiffness.
XzotikGT
Posts: 94
Joined: Fri May 06, 2005 11:23 pm
Location: Kent, WA

Post by XzotikGT »

Mines has been gone for years, back when installes a 12 in a bandpass box up there. It handles the same, and IIRC, it is so thin and not very sturdy, doesnt seem like that wall was ther for anything but a divider. If it was for structural purposes, I would have figures they would have made it beefy as hell, like the one out back.
XzotikGT
1987 GT+1996 3.4 dohc+To4b+water injection
Post Reply