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does HDR carry that?
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I'm just going to go with rubber hoses. I'm all for spending money and doing it right, but these baller pieces add no function over rubber, besides the negligibly less pressure loss from friction and better heat transfer. But as I said, negligible.

I pick up my MAF sensor from the welder tomorrow. In an effort to minimize silicone connections, I'm having as many welded as possible. Space is becoming an issue fast. I have to fit the MAF sensor and the BOV between the intercooler and throttle body, and not only is that section of pipe short, but it runs very close to the engine, tranny, coolant lines, coils, wastegate, shift cables, throttle cable, and everything else. It's a bitch. I hope to have the cold side charge piping down to the welder on Friday, and that leaves just the hot side charge piping, which is all of 4" long and only needs 1 weld. It's getting there.

I wish I could post some pics, but no camera.
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I got the piece in, and got the rubber hoses to work. It looks fine, and should work fine as well. I still liked my PVC better though.

Unfortunately I won't be able to go any farther, because the ceramic coater didn't get the header done on time (How am I not surprised...)
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I might want to suggest to you that you upgrade your front tranny mount BRACKET. With my fairly sotck 3.4 DOHC and some agressive driving I managed to mangle that POS to an unusable piece of metal. Then I broke several other mounts while that one was down. Just dont be a cheap ass and buy Rodney's front tranny mount bracket. Its thicker gauge steel and of better overall construction. I ended up needing his rear one as well BTW. Something to look into.
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That's a good idea, and one I will eventually do. But I'll just build my own when I do that.

Thanks for the advice!
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Pics of the revised rear header. It now actually fits, perfect too. I added a flex joint, and had it recoated. I likey. My friend is really smart, so it is upside down in every pic, but that's ok :thumbleft:

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Looks really good. I like the fact you used a flex joint. Lots of heat when you start adding boost.
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If I may put in my three cents, I think your welds look like absolute orgasmic sexiness. It makes it look all the more well done. To have it all ground down and smoothed out would just scream "I BOUGHT THIS SHIT PREMADE".

If I may say... even though most of the time I have no idea what I'm looking at in those pictures (esp. of the turbo stuff)... that's one damn fine setup. :thumbleft:
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Thanks for the compliments Crzyone and Falcon.

Falcon, that is what I like about it too. Anyone can buy a set of headers that look good, or go to a welder and say "Do this for me because I don't know how." Not very many people can decide they want to weld, buy a welder, buy a bunch of steel, and basically teach themselves everything. I had help from someone whose very good at welding, but he let me teach myself, only giving advice as I went. And for them to be functionally perfect is all I want. And I'm proud enough of how they came out that I think they are the best looking things underneath the decklid. I'm happy with them, and that's what counts.
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The Moroso 3" inline muffler is on the way, it will compliment the Spintech muffler. Between those two, and the turbo, the car should be pretty quiet. I hope so at least. I want it to be louder than stock, but not too much. I like quiet, smooth sounding engines. For example, stock LSX and BMW-M cars. They are loud enough to hear, but still pretty quiet. And they sound just SOOOO good driving around. I'll never put an exhaust on the SS Camaro, even if I'd gain 20hp. I've never heard an LS1 that sounds as good as the stock SLP exhaust. It's awesome.

I'll be sending my chip out to Sinister-Ryan-gmtuners in the next few days. He's going to hopefully make it to where the car will drive like stock off boost, even with the 42.5# injectors. The 42s are as big as the stock PCM can handle without being chipped according to Tim, so his car idled rough and didn't have great off-boost response. But once Ryan is done with it, it should be good as stock off boost. Then boost comes on, and I'll tune for that with the FTC1.

I'll be back in town for ~3 weeks in a couple weeks, so I hope to get it running, and if things go as planned the motor will see positive manifold pressure for the first time! Things I still need to do:

Finish charge piping
Remove, enlarge, weld on return bung, and powder coat oil pan
Run turbo oil lines
Run turbo/oil cooler/heater core water lines
Wire in the FTC1
Build 4" fender-well intake
Build exhaust system
Run vacuum lines
Run PCV/breather lines

I've got a busy 3 weeks ahead of me.
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Keep us updated, I really am interested in knowing how things go. Help a n00b out and explain your on boost fuel management plan for the lazy and un-informed.

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I swear to god himself, I think my Dad pisses me off more than anyone alive.

Every time I leave town, he decides to go down to the garage once a month. Well it isn't perfectly clean and organized to him, so he decides putting things "Where they go." In the process, he loses everything, even his stuff!

I have been searching this fucking garage for a fucking hour, looking for 2 fucking bolts. He moved the alternator, that was in the alternator box besides all of my other parts, into a random crate with some tensioners. Every bolt for the alternator, all 2 of them, and every one of the tensioner bolts? Gone.

WHY THE FUCK DOES HE STEP FOOT INTO THIS GARAGE?!?!?!?!

The last time he did ANYTHING productive in here was the day he moved the air tools from the Christmas box to the tool box in the garage, and that was last Christmas. All he comes down here for is to fucking clean that way he knows his garage that he never uses is clean. I guess cleaning means moving everything to some random ass place that no one, including himself, has any idea where shit is at.

OH MY FUCKING GOD I'M ABOUT TO GO OFF THE DEEP END.
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Aaron, the only guy on Earth who uses his build thread in the tech section to complain about daddy.

I just put everything in one big box. Then nobody can seperate stuff!
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I found them, in a coffee can way in the corner by the rags. Why the fuck they were there, I may never know.

I was having a problem with the engine chucking serpentine belts. The tensioner on there, and every one I got at the junkyard, were all bent a bit off center. Since the belt's ribbed side was on the pulley's flat side, it would chuck it off since the pulley was off center. I went to the part's store, and got a ribbed pulley to replace the flat one. After some minor clearancing, it works great.

I then put the rear header on, it fit perfect.

I hooked all the small things back up, and went for a bit of a drive. It drove good, it has a misfire, though not very often, and only once a second or so. I'm not sure why, and there were no SES lights. It may be related to my O2 sensor, which is not getting decent readings because of where it's at. I'm not going to worry about this issue yet. It also will not hold an idle, at all. I'm not going to worry about this yet either.

I decided to see how it liked a higher RPM, WOT run. So I slowly rolled on it from about 2,000rpm in 1st. At 4,000 the back end lost traction, and it soared to 6500 where I hit second, and sat sideways for a little while longer. This engine sounds like a damn racecar at 6500!!! It pulls really strong, much stronger than my other DOHC Fiero did. So engine runs good, time to force feed it!

Tomorrow I'm sending the chip back off the Ryan for the idle issues and the injectors, and I'm going to fab the charge piping.
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I had an old CRX intake laying around, and it was one of the crappy 2-piece ones. But it had 2.5" pipe, not 3. So I'm going to use this for about half of my charge piping. From turbo -> IC -> BOV -> MAF is all 2.5" pipe. Then from MAF -> TB -> plenum is 3". Should work out well.

Space is a disaster at this point. Because my charge piping is so short, and where my MAF is at, my BOV placement is extremely tight and awkward, but it will fit and function.

I gave up on fabbing the IC piping, it's too tight and I can't weld aluminum. I'll try again tomorrow. I'm going to start on the exhaust for now.
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Thanks p8ntman.

I really think God doesn't want this car to be boosted. Today my welder stopped working. It won't feed the wire.

So while I take that down to the welding place, I decided to take the oil pan off. Easier said then done. I got all the bolts out, and I don't know what to do next, it isn't coming out easy. But that's today's objective. Not like I can do much with it once it's out because of the welder issue....
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Damn dude, that sucks. At this rate i'll even be turbo'd before you, lol.
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